i've used/owned every make and type of call i think ever invented. still do better with a circe magnum with jackrabbit reeds than anything else. i think lohman makes circes now. also use whatever diaphram elk call i happen to have too. especially for a howler. works better than any o' the little plastic funnels with a reed in em. also makes a real good quail, turkey, woodpecker, wounded jack, etc., call. main thing in calling is to make a sound that is interesting to the animal, park your truck where they can't see it, and be still.