we were out of the truck by 5 on our way up the backside of a mountain my guide said he had been seeing some decent bucks on. come first light we saw some deer but only small bucks so we continued on our way. we bumped a nice buck about a 27" wide 4x4 that would probably go 170". we stayed on the mountain all day and didn't see anymore bucks so with enough light left to get back to the truck we headed back. when we got to the saddle we had to go over to get to the truck we decided to just sit and wait until dark to see if any thing came out. after about 10 minutes of glassing my guide said he seen just the tips of a buck way down the canyon. so he told me to keep my spotter on him to see if he come out a few minutes later he did I only seen his left side and said that he looked good to me. my father in law looked at me like I was mental he said your going to kill the first decent buck you see ? about then he turned toward us with his head up high and lip curled then my father in law, my daughter and my guide all said we need to kill this deer I said no sh!t.my daughter gave me a big hug and kiss and said good luck dad go hammer him hes a hog so me and my guide took off in hot pursuit while my father in law and daughter went to get the truck.