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I figured that would get attention.
I just returned from Murderers Creek where I've been going for 40 years and my dad 25 before that. it's not getting any better for deer numbers. I saw two dinks I wouldn't shoot and maybe 10 doe and fawn. I can't put into words how pathetic this is even compared to after our last winterkill in 92/93.
Only a fool or a newbie would argue our deer herds are not in serious trouble so if you're in that group please keep your comments to yourself, my object is to see if there is a concensus for change.
I don't know what the problem is, maybe it's a combination of several things. lion for sure, overhunting including unlimited bow hunters twanging at forkies from the back of pickups, too many rifle tags, too many feral horses, poor winter range managment. I don't know, what I do know is ODFW has spent millions on studies and all they've determined is we need more studies.
So I'm saying close the deer hunting 100% until numbers rebound to at least moderate numbers within range holding capacity in each unit. this would force ODFW to act, if they can't produce then at least we'll know the true impact hunting has.
How many hunters agree? not that many I expect. I hunt out of state so I'll still have good hunting but I'm sick of returning from my favorite places I grew up in feeling depressed and frusterated. until we hunters stand up for the deer ODFW will just sit with their fingers up their butt they have no reason to do otherwise.
Stay thirsty my friends
I just returned from Murderers Creek where I've been going for 40 years and my dad 25 before that. it's not getting any better for deer numbers. I saw two dinks I wouldn't shoot and maybe 10 doe and fawn. I can't put into words how pathetic this is even compared to after our last winterkill in 92/93.
Only a fool or a newbie would argue our deer herds are not in serious trouble so if you're in that group please keep your comments to yourself, my object is to see if there is a concensus for change.
I don't know what the problem is, maybe it's a combination of several things. lion for sure, overhunting including unlimited bow hunters twanging at forkies from the back of pickups, too many rifle tags, too many feral horses, poor winter range managment. I don't know, what I do know is ODFW has spent millions on studies and all they've determined is we need more studies.
So I'm saying close the deer hunting 100% until numbers rebound to at least moderate numbers within range holding capacity in each unit. this would force ODFW to act, if they can't produce then at least we'll know the true impact hunting has.
How many hunters agree? not that many I expect. I hunt out of state so I'll still have good hunting but I'm sick of returning from my favorite places I grew up in feeling depressed and frusterated. until we hunters stand up for the deer ODFW will just sit with their fingers up their butt they have no reason to do otherwise.
Stay thirsty my friends