Is it just me or is this just a terrible year to be an elk hunter.It seems almost everyone I have talked to have not seen any elk this year first or second season. It is very frustrating as a hunter to see the elk numbers where they are at. I think that oregon needs to think about how they are managing the elk and deer herds at least on the east side. I find it funny that I saw an article in the newspaper about how hunter numbers are down and the younger generation is not interested. Hmm lets think about that one ? Lack of animals year after year = lack of interest = People hunting out of state where game is more plentiful. Maybe if hunters in oregon would boycott until the odfw allowed cats to be hunted with dogs and bear baitng they just might open there eyes when there pay check comes with 000 on it. Sorry to go on so long just wondering if there are any other hunters experiencing the same affects in the unit you hunt. I am about ready to throw in the towel and spend my money on tags in a different state and I know I am not the only one.