Rancher killed

Saw this on another site.


More information, a facebook post by an eyewitness...

Appears to me trigger happy rookies really screwed up.

?Jack, Donna and Rowdy, Donna?s nephew, showed up to take care of their bull. Jack was bent down and a second from shooting the bull when a cop grabbed him from the back and spun him around. He shot Jack in the stomach and the other cop shot him 4 times in the chest. The cops were standing behind Jack.

Donna and Rowdy rushed down to Jack and the cops threw them face down on the ground and had guns to their head. Between what happened to her husband and the rough treatment, she had a massive heart attack. She was life flighted to Boise. She had another last night.

This story came from Jack?s nephew and it was told to him by Rowdy. The sheriff wanted Rowdy to change his account. The bull (becoming aggressive) seems key to the story but it wasn?t even in the account I heard from Jack?s nephew. There was crew trying to get the people out of the car that hit the bull. This sounds like a big coverup to me (the news account). I just can't understand how those cops could have done that. We seem to get the ex military rambos around here. I've heard plenty about these deputies being difficult. I don't know how Donna is doing. I hate to bother the family. I am pretty close to her and I'm so worried she isn't going to make it.(This is a post on FB)?
 
>Saw this on another site.
>
>
>More information, a facebook post by
>an eyewitness...
>
>Appears to me trigger happy rookies
>really screwed up.
>
>?Jack, Donna and Rowdy, Donna?s nephew,
>showed up to take care
>of their bull. Jack was
>bent down and a second
>from shooting the bull when
>a cop grabbed him from
>the back and spun him
>around. He shot Jack in
>the stomach and the other
>cop shot him 4 times
>in the chest. The cops
>were standing behind Jack.
>
>Donna and Rowdy rushed down to
>Jack and the cops threw
>them face down on the
>ground and had guns to
>their head. Between what happened
>to her husband and the
>rough treatment, she had a
>massive heart attack. She was
>life flighted to Boise. She
>had another last night.
>
>This story came from Jack?s nephew
>and it was told to
>him by Rowdy. The sheriff
>wanted Rowdy to change his
>account. The bull (becoming aggressive)
>seems key to the story
>but it wasn?t even in
>the account I heard from
>Jack?s nephew. There was crew
>trying to get the people
>out of the car that
>hit the bull. This sounds
>like a big coverup to
>me (the news account). I
>just can't understand how those
>cops could have done that.
>We seem to get the
>ex military rambos around here.
>I've heard plenty about these
>deputies being difficult. I don't
>know how Donna is doing.
>I hate to bother the
>family. I am pretty close
>to her and I'm so
>worried she isn't going to
>make it.(This is a post
>on FB)?

Michael Brown was just a gentle giant with his hands up too
 
Exactly. My bet is that there's an entirely different account from the officers involved than "the rancher was getting ready to shoot his prized bull." Sad situation but I seriously doubt the rancher was killed without the officers feeling threatened. Of course, if the rancher was black, that would be different. }> This story would be plastered all over every media outlet, Al Sharpton would be there, and there would be massive protests, looting, and destructive violence.
 
That account sounds fishy. Whoever wrote is saying that as the rancher was about to kill the bull one of the officers grabbed him and shot him completely unprovoked? And then the other officer shot the rancher 4 times in the chest while the first officer was still presumably close enough to "grabbed him from the back and spun him around".

Telling stories like this is how people get convicted in the court of popular opinion and miss their chance at a fair and unbiased investigation and/or trial.

How about we all stop guessing what happened and let the evidence come in.
 
For the record my only words on the 1st post were "saw this on another site" the rest was copy and past. I hope and suspect as others have said, the final truth will be a little different than this account. This man just witnessed his uncle being shot to death and his aunt potentially dying from a heart attack. Can't begin to imagine his emotional state. Feel bad for all involved.
 
LAST EDITED ON Nov-04-15 AT 11:46PM (MST)[p]Negative dw for the "record" that is not all you said. Go back and read your third sentence sir. How do you know they were trigger happy rookies who screwed up? Where you there? It just amazes me how some people make assumptions on things they no nothing about.
 
Reread my other post gros. That was part of the cut and paste, the only words I typed were the first sentence of that post. My opinion came in the "for the record" post.
 
....maybe that dog kept barking
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LAST EDITED ON Nov-08-15 AT 11:30AM (MST)[p]None of the words beyond the next semi colon are mine fer f'sake;

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quote Idaho Statesman: http://www.idahostatesman.com/news/local/article43654638.html

The family of an Adams County rancher involved in an encounter with two sheriff?s deputies says the deputies killed him in a ?completely unjustified? shooting.
Survivors of Jack Yantis, the 62-year-old who died a week ago in the darkness on U.S. 95 north of Council, say they will pursue claims against Adams County for Yantis? death.

Family members have shared with the Statesman their account of what happened last Sunday night.
The account is in written statements prepared with attorneys the family hired after the incident, a video statement Donna Yantis made from her Boise hospital bed, and a draft transcript the lawyers prepared of one family member?s account of what happened.
The Statesman also interviewed several family members, including Rowdy Paradis, a nephew of the couple?s who said he witnessed the shootings.
?Law enforcement should be trained to de-escalate situations,? said Rowdy Paradis. ?In this case, I stood 10 feet away and watched two deputies escalate the situation and needlessly kill a man.?
Sheriff Ryan Zollman did not respond Saturday to an emailed request for comment on the family?s account or to a message left with a sheriff?s dispatcher.
Here is what the family says happened on Nov. 1:

A PHONE CALL AT DINNER
The Yantises, Paradis (pronounced PAR-a-dis) and a family friend, Joe Rumsey, were finishing dinner about 6:45 p.m. Sunday in the Yantises? home near milepost 142 of U.S. 95, about 6 miles north of Council.
An Adams County Sheriff?s Office dispatcher called. One of the family?s bulls had just been hit by a car on the highway, and the Yantises needed to go take care of it.
In rural open range, collisions between vehicles and livestock are not uncommon. Ranchers often must put down the injured animals. Jack Yantis had unfortunately done it before.
Yantis had raised and tamed the 2,500-pound black Gelbvieh bull, similar to an Angus, named Keiford. Its rear leg was shattered by the collision with a Subaru station wagon. The bull started charging people at the crash scene.
Paradis walked down to check out the situation. The injured bull had made its way back to the driveway and was lying in the grass.
?He knew he was home,? Paradis said. ?He was hurt. But he is still an Angus bull on the fight.?
DEPUTIES SHOOT BULL
Jack Yantis told Paradis to get a rifle, the family?s skid-steer loader (a small front-end loader) and a chain. Paradis in turn asked his aunt to the get the family?s .204-caliber rifle and bring it to the road.
Yantis took a small all-terrain vehicle, in this case a four-wheeler, down the driveway and parked it on the highway facing the animal.
Jack went to the end of the driveway to end the bull?s life and protect anyone from getting hurt, including the very deputies who shot and killed him.
While Paradis was getting the skid loader, the deputies started shooting at the bull. At least one of them had a semiautomatic rifle, perhaps an AR-15, an adaptation of the military M16.
?They opened up with their pistols and their M16s ... before Jack got there,? Paradis said. ?That's an inhumane deal. ... This is a 2-ton Angus bull that's pissed off, he's hurt and psychotic. ... It was blazing down there and it sounded like World War III on this bull, because they got him charging at everyone again.?
Paradis drove the skid loader down the driveway and parked on the highway. The bull was lying on the pavement. Donna Yantis had walked the rifle to her husband. Jack Yantis was standing about 4 feet from the bull, aiming the rifle at the back of the bull?s head. His back was to the two deputies, who were standing in the far lane facing each other as if they were having a conversation.
?I put the (skid loader?s) lights on him and the bull, and he lined up to shoot the bull in the back of head and put him out humanely,? Paradis said.
DEPUTIES SHOOT YANTIS
The rifle?s barrel was about 2 feet from the bull, and Jack Yantis? finger was on the trigger.
?Everything was going as planned. ? I did not notice any conversation at all? between Jack Yantis and the deputies, Paradis said. ?Then the one cop turned around and grabbed his shoulder and jerked him backwards.?
The deputy came from behind, spun Yantis around and grabbed the rifle?s scope, Paradis said.
The deputy pushed Yantis. The rifle was still in Yantis? hands, its barrel pointed at the ground. Yantis was trying to regain his footing.
Paradis said he does not know whether the rifle fired, but he thinks it might have discharged accidentally when the deputy grabbed Yantis and spun him, or when one of the deputy?s bullets pierced Yantis? hand holding the rifle, hitting the gun and damaging it.
One deputy began shooting at Yantis, then the other deputy started shooting.



HANDCUFFS AND A HEART ATTACK
Donna Yantis said she and Paradis screamed at the deputies to stop.
Shot in the chest and abdomen, Jack Yantis fell to the ground. Neither deputy went to check on him. Paradis and Donna Yantis started running toward him.
?And then they threatened me and my nephew ... threw us on the middle of Highway 95, searched us and handcuffed us, and wouldn't let us go take care of Jack,? Donna Yantis said.
Paradis said one deputy pointed his gun at Paradis? head.
Donna Yantis had a heart attack. Some time later, she was taken by ambulance to Midvale and then by helicopter to Saint Alphonsus Regional Medical Center in Boise, where she remained hospitalized Saturday.
Rumsey, the family friend at dinner, had been near the wrecked car when the shooting started and ran toward Jack. The deputies handcuffed him, too.
?IT WAS A SENSELESS MURDER?
One deputy said he had been grazed by a bullet, Rumsey said. ?I asked him, ?Where?? I said, ?That's bull----.? There was no blood, no torn thread, no powder burn. There was nothing.?
After the shooting, Paradis said, the deputies? demeanor was ?smug? and ?almost celebratory.?
A deputy walked over, pulled Yantis? rifle from under his body and threw it into the grass.
?There was no shootout. It was a senseless murder,? the Yantis? daughter, Sarah, told the Statesman.
My dad is dead and the two deputies who killed him are on paid vacation. That makes me angry.
Sarah Yantis, daughter
Meanwhile, the bull was still alive, slowly bleeding out on the roadway. Family members asked the deputies to put it down to end its suffering. No one did.
?The bull ended up lying there for two hours,? Paradis said, ?suffocating in his own lung blood because they shot him in the gut.?
Cynthia Sewell: 208-377-6428, @CynthiaSewell
Police, family lawyers seek witnesses
The two Adams County deputies are on paid leave pending an Idaho State Police investigation into the Nov. 1 shooting.
?ISP reassures those involved in this incident, their families and the public at large, that they are committed to complete a thorough investigation into this incident to determine exactly what transpired,? spokeswoman Teresa Baker said in a news release last week.
?ISP detectives are continuing to conduct interviews and are methodically examining each piece of evidence. Physical evidence will be sent to forensic labs for analysis in hopes of revealing further facts that will help piece together the events that unfolded that night.
?The testing of forensic evidence and an investigation of this nature takes time, and ISP and the Adams County Sheriff?s Office request patience as the investigation process continues. There will not be any information or comments on the evidence involved in this incident until the investigation is complete.?
ISP will submit its findings to a prosecutor who will decide if charges will be filed.
Rowdy Paradis said he has already met with an ISP detective and will meet with him again soon.
?Outside of Jeff Brown with Adams County Sheriff?s Office, Idaho State Police were the first people to treat any of us as humans, let alone victims,? Paradis said. ?(The detective) has been very comforting to talk to.?
ISP asks anyone who witnessed the events leading up to, or after, the shooting to contact them at (208) 884-7110.
The Yantises? attorneys, Matthew Taylor and Paul Winward, of Boise, also want to hear from witnesses or anyone with information about the shooting. Contact them via email yantistaylorlawoffices.com.
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There will be homer, as you know. 2 sides to every story, this is only 1. Personally hope it's not the whole story, but if it is, those deputies need to be fired, tried, and convicted. No point in jumpin to conclusions before all the info is out like they did in Missouri. Time will tell. Bad deal for all involved no matter how it shakes out.
 

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