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LAST EDITED ON Nov-04-11 AT 03:31PM (MST)[p]>This past Wednesday I shot a
>deer at long range ---
>459 yards. My equipment includes
>a Tikka brand rifle in
>7 mm Remington magnum with
>a Burris Signature model scope,
>4 to 16 power variable.
>The rifle is fitted with
>an after-market Boss system made
>by Que Industries. The handloaded
>cartridge consists of the 120
>grain Barnes "X" bullet at
>3,500 feet per second. Sighted
>in at 300 yards for
>zero, the drop at 459
>yards is about 12 inches
>from line of sight. I
>use a Bushnell Lytespeed lazer
>rangefinder --- the new 800
>yard model. My bullet drops
>about one inch every 10
>yards at this distance. To
>hunt responsibly at long range
>you must know the distance
>precisely.
>
>I practice shooting out to 400
>yards and 500 yards. My
>normal 3 shot groups at
>100 yards measure just under
>one inch. My best-ever 400
>yard group with this combo
>was 3 shots in 1.1
>inches --- never came that
>close again, though. I watch
>the effects of wind and
>don't even bother shooting if
>there is much velocity at
>all. A ten-mph cross wind
>causes 10 inches of bullet
>drift at 400 yards.
>
>This past Wednesday was 5 days
>into the Wisconsin gun season
>for Whitetails. Bucks, normally fairly
>nocturnal, are even more so
>after 5 days of loud
>shooting. I had seen this
>10 point buck with its
>18 inch inside spread congregating
>with a group of bachelor
>bucks in the hayfields in
>July and early August. I
>also saw him 5 or
>6 times during the bow
>season. This two or three
>year old buck field-dressed at
>175 pounds and represents the
>oldest, largest, most savvy prey
>that we usually are challenged
>by in my heavily hunted
>neighborhood.
>
>My closest earlier hunting encounter with
>him was on my first
>evening out during the bow
>season. Forty-five minutes before closing
>time, a nice 13 1/2
>inch yearling (which my son
>later shot thinking it was
>a 2 year old) led
>him out of the marsh
>to within 35 yards of
>my stand. With the yearling
>standing relaxed and broadside at
>a shootable distance, I waited
>for his older friend to
>move forward just 2 yards
>--- out from behind some
>brush. No luck that night
>and I never got that
>close again. He was very
>wary. I saw him several
>more times during the bow
>season and twice during the
>gun season.
>
>The wind was about 3 to
>5 mph, quartering from about
>2 o'clock. Visibility was good
>with clouds above. My treestand
>put me about 30 feet
>above ground and my stand's
>safety-rail/armrest gave me near-benchrest stability.
>
>
>
>
>My stand is in a white
>pine tree where one side
>of the marsh meets a
>small woods. A few evenings
>earlier from this stand I
>had watched 2 small yearlings
>chasing a doe just 60
>yards out from me. Now,
>while still dark out, I
>had been forced to cough
>once and worried about what
>that did to my chances
>for the morning. A few
>minutes later I had heard
>one deer crash into the
>woods, going away from me.
>In this stand I could
>expect a shot at a
>deer as close as 30
>yards or as far away
>as ...
>
>I used my Zeiss 10 x
>56 Night-owl binoculars to glass
>the marsh even before there
>was good shooting light, hoping
>to see my pre-selected buck
>heading home to his bedroom
>just before dawn. Discovering where
>he was settling down would
>give me the patience to
>wait for him to stand
>up and expose himself in
>his "safe" bedding area sometime
>during the upcoming day. He
>wouldn't expect danger from 30
>feet up and perhaps a
>quarter mile away.
>
>Dawn came and I still had
>not seen him. The time
>was now about 6:50 am,
>15 minutes after the start
>of legal shooting time. Then
>I glassed again in the
>area across the marsh where
>I'd seen him briefly Sunday,
>just before dark.
>
>Now I saw a large deer
>chasing a smaller one. The
>smaller deer left my view.
>Upon further study, I could
>see that that the larger
>remaining deer was my quarry.
>A range of nearly 500
>yards --- and in early
>morning light --- is a
>little tough for a first-time,
>accurate trophy analysis. But I
>was familiar with this deer
>and most of the other
>bucks in the area and
>was confident in my identification
>of it. So far, my
>hours spent in the field
>this year totaled nearly one
>hundred --- hunting deer during
>the bow and rifle seasons.
>
>
>My Lytespeed rangefinder told me the
>distance was 459 yards. The
>buck was now relaxed and
>standing still as the crosshairs
>in my 16 power scope
>settled in just above his
>back. At the first shot
>he stood fairly still, moving
>his head around a little.
>A deer shot at this
>range does not always react
>with immediate flight like one
>shot at 50 or 100
>yards.
>
>I was fairly confident that I
>had hit him well. I
>thought I had actually heard
>the bullet impact but I
>am not sure it is
>possible at that distance. In
>the video of my 65
>inch Alaskan moose hunt (available
>in the Cabela?s catalog), shot
>earlier this fall, the sound
>of the bullet impact is
>readily heard, but that was
>at only 150 yards.
>
>I fired again and after recovery
>from the recoil of my
>follow-up shot, my scope could
>not pick up the buck
>again in the tall grass.
>I then glassed the area
>with my binoculars for 15
>minutes and mentally marked the
>site. Then I got down
>and took the 1/2 mile
>roundabout trail across the marsh,
>trying to relax and enjoy
>the morning as I walked.
>
>
>Though confident, I knew I could
>also be wrong. Could have
>missed him. Could be the
>wrong deer. Could have just
>wounded him. I approached the
>site from uphill and upwind
>so he would run into
>the open marsh if he
>could run at all. But
>there he was--- not one
>step from where he had
>stood when I fired! Both
>had been killing shots.
>
>This was a very satisfying conclusion
>to a wonderful hunting year!
>I share it with you
>fellow hunters for the purpose
>of hearing from other responsible
>long-range hunters who practice at
>long range and use the
>equipment and disciplined methods required
>for humanely taking game at
>long distances.
>
>I am looking for a friendly,
>productive discussion from newsgroup members
>(or personal e-mail). So ---
>for you naysayers who probably
>haven't even noticed the degree
>of my preparation and care
>--- please hold your comments
>to yourself.
>
>Now I saw a large deer
>chasing a smaller one. The
>smaller deer left my view.
>Upon further study, I could
>see that that the larger
>remaining deer was my quarry.
>A range of nearly 500
>yards --- and in early
>morning light --- is a
>little tough for a first-time,
>accurate trophy analysis. But I
>was familiar with this deer
>and most of the other
>bucks in the area and
>was confident in my identification
>of it. So far, my
>hours spent in the field
>this year totaled nearly one
>hundred --- hunting deer during
>the bow and rifle seasons.
>
>
>My Lytespeed rangefinder told me the
>distance was 459 yards. The
>buck was now relaxed and
>standing still as the crosshairs
>in my 16 power scope
>settled in just above his
>back. At the first shot
>he stood fairly still, moving
>his head around a little.
>A deer shot at this
>range does not always react
>with immediate flight like one
>shot at 50 or 100
>yards.
>
>I was fairly confident that I
>had hit him well. I
>thought I had actually heard
>the bullet impact but I
>am not sure it is
>possible at that distance. In
>the video of my 65
>inch Alaskan moose hunt (available
>in the Cabela?s catalog), shot
>earlier this fall, the sound
>of the bullet impact is
>readily heard, but that was
>at only 150 yards.
>
>I fired again and after recovery
>from the recoil of my
>follow-up shot, my scope could
>not pick up the buck
>again in the tall grass.
>I then glassed the area
>with my binoculars for 15
>minutes and mentally marked the
>site. Then I got down
>and took the 1/2 mile
>roundabout trail across the marsh,
>trying to relax and enjoy
>the morning as I walked.
>
>
>Though confident, I knew I could
>also be wrong. Could have
>missed him. Could be the
>wrong deer. Could have just
>wounded him. I approached the
>site from uphill and upwind
>so he would run into
>the open marsh if he
>could run at all. But
>there he was--- not one
>step from where he had
>stood when I fired! Both
>had been killing shots.
>
>This was a very satisfying conclusion
>to a wonderful hunting year!
>I share it with you
>fellow hunters for the purpose
>of hearing from other responsible
>long-range hunters who practice at
>long range and use the
>equipment and disciplined methods required
>for humanely taking game at
>long distances.
>
>I am looking for a friendly,
>productive discussion from newsgroup members
>(or personal e-mail). So ---
>for you naysayers who probably
>haven't even noticed the degree
>of my preparation and care
>--- please hold your comments
>to yourself.
>
>Now I saw a large deer
>chasing a smaller one. The
>smaller deer left my view.
>Upon further study, I could
>see that that the larger
>remaining deer was my quarry.
>A range of nearly 500
>yards --- and in early
>morning light --- is a
>little tough for a first-time,
>accurate trophy analysis. But I
>was familiar with this deer
>and most of the other
>bucks in the area and
>was confident in my identification
>of it. So far, my
>hours spent in the field
>this year totaled nearly one
>hundred --- hunting deer during
>the bow and rifle seasons.
>
>
>My Lytespeed rangefinder told me the
>distance was 459 yards. The
>buck was now relaxed and
>standing still as the crosshairs
>in my 16 power scope
>settled in just above his
>back. At the first shot
>he stood fairly still, moving
>his head around a little.
>A deer shot at this
>range does not always react
>with immediate flight like one
>shot at 50 or 100
>yards.
>
>I was fairly confident that I
>had hit him well. I
>thought I had actually heard
>the bullet impact but I
>am not sure it is
>possible at that distance. In
>the video of my 65
>inch Alaskan moose hunt (available
>in the Cabela?s catalog), shot
>earlier this fall, the sound
>of the bullet impact is
>readily heard, but that was
>at only 150 yards.
>
>I fired again and after recovery
>from the recoil of my
>follow-up shot, my scope could
>not pick up the buck
>again in the tall grass.
>I then glassed the area
>with my binoculars for 15
>minutes and mentally marked the
>site. Then I got down
>and took the 1/2 mile
>roundabout trail across the marsh,
>trying to relax and enjoy
>the morning as I walked.
>
>
>Though confident, I knew I could
>also be wrong. Could have
>missed him. Could be the
>wrong deer. Could have just
>wounded him. I approached the
>site from uphill and upwind
>so he would run into
>the open marsh if he
>could run at all. But
>there he was--- not one
>step from where he had
>stood when I fired! Both
>had been killing shots.
>
>This was a very satisfying conclusion
>to a wonderful hunting year!
>I share it with you
>fellow hunters for the purpose
>of hearing from other responsible
>long-range hunters who practice at
>long range and use the
>equipment and disciplined methods required
>for humanely taking game at
>long distances.
>
>I am looking for a friendly,
>productive discussion from newsgroup members
>(or personal e-mail). So ---
>for you naysayers who probably
>haven't even noticed the degree
>of my preparation and care
>--- please hold your comments
>to yourself.
>
>Len Backus
Im pretty sure that since you own the foremost long range hunting/shooting web forum/site you have no problem finding these discusions.
>deer at long range ---
>459 yards. My equipment includes
>a Tikka brand rifle in
>7 mm Remington magnum with
>a Burris Signature model scope,
>4 to 16 power variable.
>The rifle is fitted with
>an after-market Boss system made
>by Que Industries. The handloaded
>cartridge consists of the 120
>grain Barnes "X" bullet at
>3,500 feet per second. Sighted
>in at 300 yards for
>zero, the drop at 459
>yards is about 12 inches
>from line of sight. I
>use a Bushnell Lytespeed lazer
>rangefinder --- the new 800
>yard model. My bullet drops
>about one inch every 10
>yards at this distance. To
>hunt responsibly at long range
>you must know the distance
>precisely.
>
>I practice shooting out to 400
>yards and 500 yards. My
>normal 3 shot groups at
>100 yards measure just under
>one inch. My best-ever 400
>yard group with this combo
>was 3 shots in 1.1
>inches --- never came that
>close again, though. I watch
>the effects of wind and
>don't even bother shooting if
>there is much velocity at
>all. A ten-mph cross wind
>causes 10 inches of bullet
>drift at 400 yards.
>
>This past Wednesday was 5 days
>into the Wisconsin gun season
>for Whitetails. Bucks, normally fairly
>nocturnal, are even more so
>after 5 days of loud
>shooting. I had seen this
>10 point buck with its
>18 inch inside spread congregating
>with a group of bachelor
>bucks in the hayfields in
>July and early August. I
>also saw him 5 or
>6 times during the bow
>season. This two or three
>year old buck field-dressed at
>175 pounds and represents the
>oldest, largest, most savvy prey
>that we usually are challenged
>by in my heavily hunted
>neighborhood.
>
>My closest earlier hunting encounter with
>him was on my first
>evening out during the bow
>season. Forty-five minutes before closing
>time, a nice 13 1/2
>inch yearling (which my son
>later shot thinking it was
>a 2 year old) led
>him out of the marsh
>to within 35 yards of
>my stand. With the yearling
>standing relaxed and broadside at
>a shootable distance, I waited
>for his older friend to
>move forward just 2 yards
>--- out from behind some
>brush. No luck that night
>and I never got that
>close again. He was very
>wary. I saw him several
>more times during the bow
>season and twice during the
>gun season.
>
>The wind was about 3 to
>5 mph, quartering from about
>2 o'clock. Visibility was good
>with clouds above. My treestand
>put me about 30 feet
>above ground and my stand's
>safety-rail/armrest gave me near-benchrest stability.
>
>
>
>
>My stand is in a white
>pine tree where one side
>of the marsh meets a
>small woods. A few evenings
>earlier from this stand I
>had watched 2 small yearlings
>chasing a doe just 60
>yards out from me. Now,
>while still dark out, I
>had been forced to cough
>once and worried about what
>that did to my chances
>for the morning. A few
>minutes later I had heard
>one deer crash into the
>woods, going away from me.
>In this stand I could
>expect a shot at a
>deer as close as 30
>yards or as far away
>as ...
>
>I used my Zeiss 10 x
>56 Night-owl binoculars to glass
>the marsh even before there
>was good shooting light, hoping
>to see my pre-selected buck
>heading home to his bedroom
>just before dawn. Discovering where
>he was settling down would
>give me the patience to
>wait for him to stand
>up and expose himself in
>his "safe" bedding area sometime
>during the upcoming day. He
>wouldn't expect danger from 30
>feet up and perhaps a
>quarter mile away.
>
>Dawn came and I still had
>not seen him. The time
>was now about 6:50 am,
>15 minutes after the start
>of legal shooting time. Then
>I glassed again in the
>area across the marsh where
>I'd seen him briefly Sunday,
>just before dark.
>
>Now I saw a large deer
>chasing a smaller one. The
>smaller deer left my view.
>Upon further study, I could
>see that that the larger
>remaining deer was my quarry.
>A range of nearly 500
>yards --- and in early
>morning light --- is a
>little tough for a first-time,
>accurate trophy analysis. But I
>was familiar with this deer
>and most of the other
>bucks in the area and
>was confident in my identification
>of it. So far, my
>hours spent in the field
>this year totaled nearly one
>hundred --- hunting deer during
>the bow and rifle seasons.
>
>
>My Lytespeed rangefinder told me the
>distance was 459 yards. The
>buck was now relaxed and
>standing still as the crosshairs
>in my 16 power scope
>settled in just above his
>back. At the first shot
>he stood fairly still, moving
>his head around a little.
>A deer shot at this
>range does not always react
>with immediate flight like one
>shot at 50 or 100
>yards.
>
>I was fairly confident that I
>had hit him well. I
>thought I had actually heard
>the bullet impact but I
>am not sure it is
>possible at that distance. In
>the video of my 65
>inch Alaskan moose hunt (available
>in the Cabela?s catalog), shot
>earlier this fall, the sound
>of the bullet impact is
>readily heard, but that was
>at only 150 yards.
>
>I fired again and after recovery
>from the recoil of my
>follow-up shot, my scope could
>not pick up the buck
>again in the tall grass.
>I then glassed the area
>with my binoculars for 15
>minutes and mentally marked the
>site. Then I got down
>and took the 1/2 mile
>roundabout trail across the marsh,
>trying to relax and enjoy
>the morning as I walked.
>
>
>Though confident, I knew I could
>also be wrong. Could have
>missed him. Could be the
>wrong deer. Could have just
>wounded him. I approached the
>site from uphill and upwind
>so he would run into
>the open marsh if he
>could run at all. But
>there he was--- not one
>step from where he had
>stood when I fired! Both
>had been killing shots.
>
>This was a very satisfying conclusion
>to a wonderful hunting year!
>I share it with you
>fellow hunters for the purpose
>of hearing from other responsible
>long-range hunters who practice at
>long range and use the
>equipment and disciplined methods required
>for humanely taking game at
>long distances.
>
>I am looking for a friendly,
>productive discussion from newsgroup members
>(or personal e-mail). So ---
>for you naysayers who probably
>haven't even noticed the degree
>of my preparation and care
>--- please hold your comments
>to yourself.
>
>Now I saw a large deer
>chasing a smaller one. The
>smaller deer left my view.
>Upon further study, I could
>see that that the larger
>remaining deer was my quarry.
>A range of nearly 500
>yards --- and in early
>morning light --- is a
>little tough for a first-time,
>accurate trophy analysis. But I
>was familiar with this deer
>and most of the other
>bucks in the area and
>was confident in my identification
>of it. So far, my
>hours spent in the field
>this year totaled nearly one
>hundred --- hunting deer during
>the bow and rifle seasons.
>
>
>My Lytespeed rangefinder told me the
>distance was 459 yards. The
>buck was now relaxed and
>standing still as the crosshairs
>in my 16 power scope
>settled in just above his
>back. At the first shot
>he stood fairly still, moving
>his head around a little.
>A deer shot at this
>range does not always react
>with immediate flight like one
>shot at 50 or 100
>yards.
>
>I was fairly confident that I
>had hit him well. I
>thought I had actually heard
>the bullet impact but I
>am not sure it is
>possible at that distance. In
>the video of my 65
>inch Alaskan moose hunt (available
>in the Cabela?s catalog), shot
>earlier this fall, the sound
>of the bullet impact is
>readily heard, but that was
>at only 150 yards.
>
>I fired again and after recovery
>from the recoil of my
>follow-up shot, my scope could
>not pick up the buck
>again in the tall grass.
>I then glassed the area
>with my binoculars for 15
>minutes and mentally marked the
>site. Then I got down
>and took the 1/2 mile
>roundabout trail across the marsh,
>trying to relax and enjoy
>the morning as I walked.
>
>
>Though confident, I knew I could
>also be wrong. Could have
>missed him. Could be the
>wrong deer. Could have just
>wounded him. I approached the
>site from uphill and upwind
>so he would run into
>the open marsh if he
>could run at all. But
>there he was--- not one
>step from where he had
>stood when I fired! Both
>had been killing shots.
>
>This was a very satisfying conclusion
>to a wonderful hunting year!
>I share it with you
>fellow hunters for the purpose
>of hearing from other responsible
>long-range hunters who practice at
>long range and use the
>equipment and disciplined methods required
>for humanely taking game at
>long distances.
>
>I am looking for a friendly,
>productive discussion from newsgroup members
>(or personal e-mail). So ---
>for you naysayers who probably
>haven't even noticed the degree
>of my preparation and care
>--- please hold your comments
>to yourself.
>
>Now I saw a large deer
>chasing a smaller one. The
>smaller deer left my view.
>Upon further study, I could
>see that that the larger
>remaining deer was my quarry.
>A range of nearly 500
>yards --- and in early
>morning light --- is a
>little tough for a first-time,
>accurate trophy analysis. But I
>was familiar with this deer
>and most of the other
>bucks in the area and
>was confident in my identification
>of it. So far, my
>hours spent in the field
>this year totaled nearly one
>hundred --- hunting deer during
>the bow and rifle seasons.
>
>
>My Lytespeed rangefinder told me the
>distance was 459 yards. The
>buck was now relaxed and
>standing still as the crosshairs
>in my 16 power scope
>settled in just above his
>back. At the first shot
>he stood fairly still, moving
>his head around a little.
>A deer shot at this
>range does not always react
>with immediate flight like one
>shot at 50 or 100
>yards.
>
>I was fairly confident that I
>had hit him well. I
>thought I had actually heard
>the bullet impact but I
>am not sure it is
>possible at that distance. In
>the video of my 65
>inch Alaskan moose hunt (available
>in the Cabela?s catalog), shot
>earlier this fall, the sound
>of the bullet impact is
>readily heard, but that was
>at only 150 yards.
>
>I fired again and after recovery
>from the recoil of my
>follow-up shot, my scope could
>not pick up the buck
>again in the tall grass.
>I then glassed the area
>with my binoculars for 15
>minutes and mentally marked the
>site. Then I got down
>and took the 1/2 mile
>roundabout trail across the marsh,
>trying to relax and enjoy
>the morning as I walked.
>
>
>Though confident, I knew I could
>also be wrong. Could have
>missed him. Could be the
>wrong deer. Could have just
>wounded him. I approached the
>site from uphill and upwind
>so he would run into
>the open marsh if he
>could run at all. But
>there he was--- not one
>step from where he had
>stood when I fired! Both
>had been killing shots.
>
>This was a very satisfying conclusion
>to a wonderful hunting year!
>I share it with you
>fellow hunters for the purpose
>of hearing from other responsible
>long-range hunters who practice at
>long range and use the
>equipment and disciplined methods required
>for humanely taking game at
>long distances.
>
>I am looking for a friendly,
>productive discussion from newsgroup members
>(or personal e-mail). So ---
>for you naysayers who probably
>haven't even noticed the degree
>of my preparation and care
>--- please hold your comments
>to yourself.
>
>Len Backus
Im pretty sure that since you own the foremost long range hunting/shooting web forum/site you have no problem finding these discusions.
B
BFM
Guest
Hey Grizzmosse are you an English teacher? I have not seen a one word answer or a complete sentence! This would lead me to believe that we are all retards!! Thank you.
T
TINEBROTHER
Guest
bow 20 yrds
