+1 on the Zen-Ray. You'll have a hard time finding better glass for the price ($799 from cameralandny.com). I used the non-HD version for about two years while I saved up enough for a Swarovski, and I was very satisfied with it overall. Sure love the Swarovski though. If it can wait a little, I would save up another couple hundred and just get a non-HD Swarovski. There's a reason they are at the top of the pack, and after upgrading my spotter three times before the Swarovski, I wish I would have just gone with it in the first place. If you watch eBay, you can occasionally find one for $1200-1500, but, again, the Zen-Ray is a very nice scope as well, and you won't be disappointed with it if you don't want to spend the extra money for the Swarovski.