Thanx Obama

My old department has had three shootings in the past year. Bad guys-0, cops-3 D.O.A. The last involved a career criminal with a long arrest record for violence. The female Sgt. that dumped him put 3 40 cal, hollow points in him to end his unlawful career after he had fired off one shot. We had one wanted felony suspect that ambushed two of our officers at very close range, and after wounding both officers they returned fire and his cause of death was listed as multiple gunshot wounds. 21 to be exact.
Another suspect fired into a home and when surrounded came out shooting. He missed, but the cops did not. 3-4 shots to the body and one rifle round between his eyes.

We have some very good firearm instructors, I used to be one of them.

RELH
 
>Ok, I'll play... why Thanx Obama?
>


I'm also a little curious about that. Did we not have black tar heroin and dealers of said drug with large amounts of firepower who dislike being arrested prior to 2009? Seems like that has been a thing for a while now.
 
LAST EDITED ON Jan-28-19 AT 08:20PM (MST)[p]I did not research this, but I recall seeing a sharp rise of officers being reported killed in the line of duty during Obama's 8 years in office. A good portion of the shootings were done by black suspects. Do a search and see for your self if it is fact.
It also may be the fact that we see more police shootings being published in the news as compared to earlier times.
RELH
 
well....Obama did sell a hell of alot of guns....


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RELH, do you work for the fake news media? Taking an unsubstantiated assumption and posting it in such a way that it seems true? Shame on you. You've taken this Trump worship too far.


A. I'm very sorry for the officers who were injured and I thank them for their service.

B. I am relieved the two suspects were taken down by the police. Death is too good for them.

C. I have not yet seen a single account of the incident that reported them as being black. Could be but no one has reported that.

D. You've got to be frickin kidding me if that was the point of the dig.

E. I have noticed, though I have not researched it, that there has been an uptick in white women being murdered, raped, assaulted and reported missing in the last two years. Thanks Trump.
 
LAST EDITED ON Jan-28-19 AT 10:11PM (MST)[p]NVBighorn, I was waiting for FTW to grab the bait. Instead you grabbed it and end up with your foot in your mouth.

Here is the stats as from the FBI. The numbers listed below only takes in the officers that were killed as the result of a felony assault. It does not take in officers killed in traffic accidents or pursuits or other accidents.

Year. Number of officers killed.

2007-------------58
2008-------------41
2009-------------48
2010-------------56
2011-------------72
2012-------------49
2013-------------27
2014-------------51
2015-------------41
2016-------------66
2017-------------46
As you can see Obama had 6 years that were higher then Trump's first year in office in 2017. Obama had a big jump percentage in 2016 after he made numerous anti police comments on cases involving black Americans.

As to those rapes and murders of white women. A good percentage has been done recently by illegal aliens. In fact you had a illegal alien arrested in your state outside of Reno that killed 4 older whites, 3 of them women. Do you feel that we do not need the wall?
RELH
 
You need to take a statistics class old timer. You can't call that a trend. How do you explain the huge drop from 2011 to 2013? 72 to 27? If you threw those number in a chart it would look like a snake on hot pavement. What do the numbers look like before 2007? Obama didnt take office until 2009. GW had a couple of pretty good years in there as well.

Oh and don't forget, Obama hasn't been president for two years. Today is under Trump's rule.
 
That means Trump had a bigger percentage drop in his first year then Obama did. Keep talking and you will have your knee in your mouth with your TDS.

RELH
 
From 1980 to 2014 the average number of officers feloniously killed (not by accident) was 64 per year. Obama's average was 51.5. Keep lying old man.
 
You missed your math class on stats. When you figured in 64 killed on average from 1980 to 2014, 6 of those years were under Obama, 2009 to 2014. You are up to having your butt in your mouth now.

RELH
 
>You missed your math class on
>stats. When you figured in
>64 killed on average from
>1980 to 2014, 6 of
>those years were under Obama,
>2009 to 2014. You are
>up to having your butt
>in your mouth now.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> RELH

Yes, so Obama's 6 years were considerably lower than the overall average (which included 6 of his years) over 28 years. Does he get credit for that? No, it is a trend that is larger than any one president. Probably as much the more military style tactics and gear than anything.
 
Why would you take the Obama subset out? That would bias the data. But then I guess that is Trump math. Bend it, bias it, and then lie about it.

In fact if Obama's average is 51.5, it would make the average of other years higher to take them out. His years are pulling the average down.

Besides I didn't do that math. I got that average of 64 right off the same webpage you got your numbers. If the average was 64 with Obama's numbers in there must have been some tragicly high years under all those white-guy presidents from 1980 to 2009.

As DW would say, keep swinging that mallet gramps.
 
I'd like to see the stats on cop assassination and assassination attempts, not just cops killed in the line of duty.
 
I guess the Democrats don't remember Obama bashing the police all the time. Blaming the police all the time. I guess they don't remember all the black people rioting in the streets over justified killings of black people with guns that were trying to kill cops.
 
We are losing sight of the tragedy and being disrespectful of the officers who were shot. I apologize for that. It was a terrible , tragic event.

Let me make it clear, I am not trying to defend Obama. I just think it's wrong that the first conclusion drawn is that it's Obama's fault. And then to take it further and try to make stats lie to back up that conclusion is wrong.

Drug dealers are a very dangerous group of people. Being a narcotics officer is a very dangerous profession. They lay their lives on the line every day. For that I am grateful. I sincerely hope the officers recover fully.
 
>We are losing sight of the
>tragedy and being disrespectful of
>the officers who were shot.
>I apologize for that. It
>was a terrible , tragic
>event.
>
>Let me make it clear, I
>am not trying to defend
>Obama. I just think it's
>wrong that the first conclusion
>drawn is that it's Obama's
>fault. And then to take
>it further and try to
>make stats lie to back
>up that conclusion is wrong.
>
>
>Drug dealers are a very dangerous
>group of people. Being a
>narcotics officer is a very
>dangerous profession. They lay their
>lives on the line every
>day. For that I am
>grateful. I sincerely hope the
>officers recover fully.

Well said


"The penalty good men pay for indifference to public affairs is to be ruled by evil men." - Plato
 
LAST EDITED ON Jan-29-19 AT 09:26PM (MST)[p]They sure look black to me Wyosam.
Thanx Obama

I'm sure RELH will find a way to spin it. Maybe the Black tar heroin had him confused.
 
LAST EDITED ON Jan-29-19 AT 10:04PM (MST)[p]OK, then why is Obama getting credit for two well armed drug dealers shooting at law enforcement coming to arrest them? Was serving this sort of warrant generally well received by heroin dealers prior to 2009? Pretty much just a "well, shucks, you got us, we give up" kind of thing?

Don't get me wrong, I'm not in any way a fan of law enforcement officers being shot at on the job or otherwise, but misidentifying factors that contribute does nothing to reduce the problem.
 
>You think this is about race.
>That's cute.
>
>
>
>#livelikezac


You're cute. ;-)

You know what DW, I'm not sure what your intent was.


But for RELH it was about race.
"I did not research this, but I recall seeing a sharp rise of officers being reported killed in the line of duty during Obama's 8 years in office. A good portion of the shootings were done by black suspects. Do a search and see for your self if it is fact."


And for AshatAdventures it was about race.
"I guess the Democrats don't remember Obama bashing the police all the time. Blaming the police all the time. I guess they don't remember all the black people rioting in the streets over justified killings of black people with guns that were trying to kill cops."
 
Yes you liberal idiot, it was about race. After Obama stuck his foot in his mouth over the incidents in Florida, Ferguson, MO. and the Rose Garden beer incident, there was a upsurge of black violence on officers and causing riots.

They felt Obama had their back and become bolder on committing criminal acts. Now we know you also have their back as any die in the wool liberal would do.
You got your panties in a wad over falling for the bait that I planted for FTW to fall for. You couldn't wait to get your two cents in and stuck your foot in your liberal spewing mouth. Have a nice day and keep on defending Obama.

RELH
 
>Yes you liberal idiot, it was
>about race.


Ding ding ding!! We have a winner!!!

You must have a liberal idiot in your family.



Agfter Obama stuck
>his foot in his mouth
>over the incidents in Florida,
>Ferguson, MO. and the Rose
>Garden beer incident, there was
>a upsurge of black violence
>on officers and causing riots.
>
>
> They felt Obama
>had their back and become
>bolder on committing criminal acts.
>Now we know you also
>have their back as any
>die in the wool liberal
>would do.
> You got your
>panties in a wad over
>falling for the bait that
>I planted for FTW to
>fall for. You couldn't wait
>to get your two cents
>in and stuck your foot
>in your liberal spewing mouth.
>Have a nice day and
>keep on defending Obama.
>
>
>
>
>
>
> RELH

You totally bobbled the ball with your little bait. You were completely wrong with damn near every point you tried to make.


Your hate spewing mouth has you all riled up doesn't it. I must have hit a nerve. Neither AdolfsAdventures nor dude can't hold a candle to your hate.
 
You do know that I am sitting here laughing at your p!ss poor comeback defense. I do not expect a flaming liberal to admit they are wrong. As for my hate, it is not racist in nature. I do hate criminals and I detest idiots and socialists.
I let you decide which one I think you are.

RELH
 

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