The Antithesis Of Teddy Roosevelt

OchocoKid

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If you wanted to destroy TR's legacy you could do no better than team orange and the republican party.


This administration and most of the republicans in congress are the conservationist's and true outdoorsman's sworn enemy. not that it's anything we didn't know was coming, so now it's time to confront it.

Chose your side, you're either for or against public lands and vote accordingly.




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Wow, not popular ?

I guess the fake conservatives are fake outdoorsmen as well. but what do you expect from a bunch of flip flop wearing taco bending Californians.








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So like all the other fake outdoorsmen you don't give a FF what Trump does to or with public lands. your single wide isn't on public land so who needs it.




As far as Russian collusion goes we can talk all you want on that absolutely nothing has changed. just keep it on the proper forum so you can't hide from what your chit stain is doing on this subject.















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Dude if Hillary had been elected, with her track record you can bet she would not give a $hit about public land. She would have sold it to the highest bidder that donated to her foundation.

RELH
 
RELH. If the continuing decline of your thinking ability is what I can anticipate when I get older I hope I don't make old age. #SAD
 
LMAO! What happened to Trump's Russian collusion that was going to bring him to his knees and end his presidency? We don't want to talk about it anymore? I'm no Trumpeteer by any means but this shyt is pure comedy.

All we have heard about for the past year almost is how Comrade Trump and his merry band of traitors stole the election by colluding with our arch enemy the Russians. Now, all of a sudden we don't want to talk about it anymore?

If any of you libtards had any decency about you at all, you would be all over the new Russian scandal like flies on shyt. I know, I know, Hillary Clinton isn't POTUS so who cares right? God what a sad bunch of retards you people are.
 
It sounds like TR was a complete failure. Who sets aside that much land with no way to access it? Of course back then it wasn't expected for you to drive in a straight line from your house to the public land.

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Cornhusker my thinking ability is still good. Far better then yours since you voted twice for a guy who promised "Hope and change" and gave you one of the most corrupt administrations for the past 100 years.
Your ability not to think like a reasonable person led you to vote the second time for him after he failed to keep his promises during his first term.

On second thought, you are right about getting old and your thinking getting worse since your ability to use good common sense is so terrible now, you only have senility to look forward too.

All you liberals are butt hurt because your false propaganda backfired on you and now may just destroy the Democrat's integrity as they have already destroyed their honor. Hope you are proud of what the Democrats have given you after bending you and the public over for that sharp stick. You are a loyal party member to the death.

RELH
 
Trump is going down in flames with or without anything involving Russia. #failing president.

RELH talking out his azz again. show where Hillary ever tried to sell off or diminish public lands. I can show you many examples of your republicans doing it if you'd like.

This is not about Russia or Hillary you mouthbreathers. own what your orange chit stain is up to on public lands. defend it or return to your circle jerk and STFU.















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Alot of hell was raised in Utah when chaffets promoted a bill to sell off public lands. I'm sure if anyone else tries alot of hell will be raised again. We need public lands and that's one thing I and alot of others are not willing to give up.

"We don't have a gun problem we have prescription drug problem."
 
>LMAO! What happened to Trump's
>Russian collusion that was going
>to bring him to his
>knees and end his presidency?
> We don't want to
>talk about it anymore?
>I'm no Trumpeteer by any
>means but this shyt is
>pure comedy.
>
>All we have heard about for
>the past year almost is
>how Comrade Trump and his
>merry band of traitors stole
>the election by colluding with
>our arch enemy the Russians.
> Now, all of a
>sudden we don't want to
>talk about it anymore?
>
>If any of you libtards had
>any decency about you at
>all, you would be all
>over the new Russian scandal
>like flies on shyt.
>I know, I know, Hillary
>Clinton isn't POTUS so who
>cares right? God what
>a sad bunch of retards
>you people are.
+1 Korn you owe us all an apology !
 
wstrntines,

Selling off of public lands is a plank in the Republican platform. If we send people to DC who state this as their goal and then are shocked when they try to do it that doesn't bode well for the future of public lands.


Page 21 of the Party Platform

Congress shall immediately pass universal legislation providing for a timely and orderly mechanism requiring the federal
government to convey certain federally controlled
public lands to states. We call upon all national
and state leaders and representatives to exert their
utmost power and influence to urge the transfer of
those lands, identified in the review process, to all
willing states for the benefit of the states and the
nation as a whole.
 
Welp, that is certainly one thing that the Republican party and I completely disagree on. It doesn't mean that I will start voting for Democrats though. We need to take a stand and make it known that we don't support this from our party and that all attempts to do this will be fought tooth and nail. I will be emailing my congressman (Devin Nunes) to put him on notice that as a registered Republican, I do not support our federal public lands going back to the states for the states to do with as they please.
 
LAST EDITED ON Oct-27-17 AT 07:10PM (MST)[p]Look, if you have an interest in keeping Public Lands public, then you are supporting the wrong party. You didn't change, but you're party did.

That form of government funding known as Socialism that furnishes you police, fire, emergency personnel, highways, freeways, National Defense, National Parks, BLM have become a new Boogie Man.

True Republicans are the stewards of the environment. The Party that started the National Park System and the Environmental Protection Agency. Yet people associate environmentalists and environmentalism as a view belonging to Democrats.

That, selling Public Lands and turning away from minorities and that financial accountability thing are all but distant memories. Today's Republicans are nothing but yesterday's Dixiecrats.

These are some of the reasons why people no longer claim a party and become non-partisan independent. If you believe in the best candidate and not the best party, the best idea and not ideology then don't claim a party.
 
The republicans seen to be on the path to tubesville anyway but this is just one more reason to dump Trump.


TR was disobeyed his party and that's why we have these public lands. the least we can do is slam the door in the face of the chitball's who'd undo it . decide where you stand and vote accordingly.

















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It's not going to help stoney the welcher out any but it's still a slap in the face to those who care about protecting public lands.

Hopefully the tribes will hand Trump his orange azz in a sack. there will be no shortage of funding for the lawsuit.

Trump is working as hard to undo Teddy Roosevelt's legacy as he is Obama's.


http://www.sltrib.com/news/politics...hell-shrink-the-bears-ears-national-monument/










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It looks like there is two sides to the story. Which is right will have to be determined down the line.

RELH
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President Trump?s decision to reduce the size of the Bears Ears and Staircase-Escalante National Monuments in Utah, announced Monday on his visit to the state, is a good one and an example of his policies that will benefit every American who enjoys national parks and monuments.

We should all thank the president for his administration?s efforts to look at the facts, listen to the people, and act to roll back restrictive and unnecessary national monument designations that provide few advantages to the American people.



While such designations may sound good on the surface, in reality they have strained land management budgets and limited public access to beautiful places.


The Trump administration has been on the ground listening to those who bear the burden of these decisions ? unlike the Clinton and Obama administrations, which showed little interest in talking to local people before locking up millions of acres of land around them.

The Trump administration has seen firsthand what I saw when I represented some of these areas in Congress ? that the consequences of locking down the West have been severe.


Overly expansive monument designations ? like the two multimillion-acre monuments in Utah ? could have been spent on existing park treasures.

I applaud the president for having the courtesy to do what his predecessors never did ? visiting Utah personally to deliver the news that will positively impact those who love and care for these lands. His attention is a far cry from President Clinton making his Grand Staircase-Escalante Monument announcement from another state and President Obama issuing a press release with the wrong photo of Bears Ears.



The notion that our only option for managing public land is a restrictive monument designation is false. In truth, we can build bathrooms and fire pits, and accommodate hunting, fishing, grazing, and permit accessibility without destroying the land. In places where restrictive conservation rules are less justified, we can even authorize responsible resource extraction.

Each time the federal government levies new land designations, that new designation and management plan competes with existing parks and monuments for funding.

The National Park Service suffers from a $12 billion maintenance backlog ? meaning crumbling buildings, roads, and bridges cannot be repaired or replaced. Overly expansive monument designations ? like the two multimillion-acre monuments in Utah ? could have been spent on existing park treasures.

In the case of Bears Ears National Monument, all of that land was already federal land mostly managed for conservation use. With President Obama?s monument designation, the maintenance fell to the already-strapped National Park Service. Many of these lands were once managed successfully by other agencies ? like the Bureau of Land Management and U.S. Forest Service ? and can be again.

But freeing up more money for national parks isn't the only advantage of Monday?s decision. Access to these places will be expanded, not restricted, as required in large-scale national monuments.

By lifting restrictions on motorized access, President Trump makes these lands available to more than just the able-bodied. With expanded access, the elderly, disabled and even wounded veterans can utilize bikes or off-highway vehicles to access spectacular places.

Furthermore, those who wish to use the land for other purposes ? such as hunting, fishing, camping, and outdoor recreation ? will now also have access.

For Utah Native Americans, this improved access is important. For centuries, they have used the land around the Bears Ears National Monument to hunt, gather, and worship. Many would come on foot while others would utilize off-highway vehicles to collect firewood, gather medicinal herbs or meet in specific locations for religious ceremonies.

The federal government could preclude these uses under a restrictive monument designation ? as it has in Arizona?s Canyon de Chelly, Wupatki and even Utah's Natural Bridges.

Monument designations ? particularly the Grand Staircase-Escalante National Monument ? have been routinely abused in an effort to lock down resource-rich areas that do not meet objective criteria for preservation.

By unlocking these otherwise unremarkable areas, President Trump enables high-paying resource extraction jobs to return to rural communities ? a process that not only helps local economic development, but reduces U.S. dependence on foreign imports.

Protecting our most beautiful places is important. But we don't have to lock people out to do it. We don't have to put further strain on federal land management budgets. We certainly don't need to decimate rural economies. President Trump has done the right thing. All of us will be the beneficiaries of this decision.
 
Has anyone looked at what the designation means ? or do you just assume it's bad m'kay ?


TRCP is very concerned about this action. WTF does that tell hunters ? or are you really hunters?













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I have contacted every Republican I could during the last Utah elections and every one of them was for takeover of Federal Lands. Not one of them got my vote. I too vote for more Democrats than Republicans now.
 
If you care about public lands and the environment voting republican is no longer an option. not that they were ever strong on the subject. but now they're at war on it.

If you want to hunt private land with an ak-47 and a dozen 30 round clips the republicans are your friends. otherwise phuk them and the quad they rode in on.









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No defense I guess. you're right.

Any true sportsman should be ashamed of supporting this corrupt anti-public land anti-American regime .










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