classifiedBINGO!!!!! What ever happend to fauci's email on funding the wuhan lab?
classifiedBINGO!!!!! What ever happend to fauci's email on funding the wuhan lab?
I don't know about Gator but I was SICK in bed for 3 weeks, lost 20 lbs.....then it was gone...no after effectsQuestion, Gator. Once you kicked the virus, how much effect did it have on your overall health and energy level? How long until you felt like yourself again?
They can. They don't test all samples for which variant it is. Just a percentage so they can then extrapolate the number of each.Can they even tell what what variant you got I heard they couldn’t yet ?
Start another poll, under 50 healthy, and over 50. I don't begrudge anyone that wants to be vaccinated (walked the shot line in boot), I have an issue with those demanding I be vaccinated. Does your shot work or doesn't it? If it works, what does it matter what I do? If it doesn't, why the hell would I get it? 54, no pre existing conditions, veteran, republican, actuaully WORK for a living, want to be left the F alone more than anything! I'm confident in the length of my coock, leave me out of your contest.....
That's what I thought too roadrunner. Well said."Unvaccinated monsters"?
What a pig...
about a month to get the strength back in the legs. Was tried about for 2 weeks would wake up after 6 hr of sleep (That sucked)Question, Gator. Once you kicked the virus, how much effect did it have on your overall health and energy level? How long until you felt like yourself again?
I don't know about Gator but I was SICK in bed for 3 weeks, lost 20 lbs.....then it was gone...no after effects
That website was created by Mike Adams. He is a known quack. Also founded Natural News. He makes the Infowars guy sound legit.Intresting video
Media TRICK/CON about FDA 'Approval'
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Our Government Said as Soon as the Hot Weather Showed Up it Would end the COVID!
Was It Not Hot This Year?
Somebody F'N Lied!
everyone got itDid any other Family Members get it from You?
That website was created by Mike Adams. He is a known quack. Also founded Natural News. He makes the Infowars guy sound legit.
Lol. I don't follow what Fauci says either. Take off your tinfoil hat. The world is not out to get you.So a qauk like fauci? You know the guy with deep dark secrets of the funded lab
Lol. I don't follow what Fauci says either. Take off your tinfoil hat. The world is not out to get you.
everyone got it
Agree fully that he is the worst President in my lifetime for sure, maybe ever. He needs to be dropped off at the gates of Kabul airport.No tinfoil hat here. Only the our worthless administration is out to get you. I think today pretty much proved that
it was in December...mild symptoms for all of them....thanks bessGlad You & Your Family are Tough & Got Through it Homer!
How long did the trials and testing for those vaccines take? If you think that MAJOR shortcuts weren’t taken in the approval process to get the “Elect Me” vaccine out to the masses then you are a fool.Again, I would advise you to look for consensus amongst experts. The veterinarian that you are referencing does have a degree in virology but a quick perusal of his posts demonstrate that he is advising against all mass vaccinations. He is clearly an outlier in this field of study. How many people do you know with smallpox, measles or polio? The data clearly shows that we have been able to control many infectious diseases through mass vaccination programs.
Ummm, you just offered some of the best proof there is that masks and social distancing significantly prevent the spread of viruses.PS… why is nobody talking about the fact that we cured the flu ??
Ummmm…..are you trying to make a counter point? Because none of what you said has anything to do with what I posted.Ummm, you just offered some of the best proof there is that masks and social distancing significantly prevent the spread of viruses.
The 2020-2021 flu season also had a record number of influenza vaccinations administered in the USA.
The bottom line is the epidemiologists were correct and influenza, which we all deal with every year, proves it.
ShadowQuestion, Gator. Once you kicked the virus, how much effect did it have on your overall health and energy level? How long until you felt like yourself again?
Ummmm…..are you trying to make a counter point? Because none of what you said has anything to do with what I posted.
I don't think that's a foregone conclusion, as tempting and appealing as it might be. Mask wearing and social distancing didn't wipe out Covid-19 and they're both air born viruses floating around at the same time. Covid-19 might have eaten the flu virus.....I don't know.Ummm, you just offered some of the best proof there is that masks and social distancing significantly prevent the spread of viruses.
The 2020-2021 flu season also had a record number of influenza vaccinations administered in the USA.
The bottom line is the epidemiologists were correct and influenza, which we all deal with every year, proves it.
Ummm, you just offered some of the best proof there is that masks and social distancing significantly prevent the spread of viruses.
The 2020-2021 flu season also had a record number of influenza vaccinations administered in the USA.
The bottom line is the epidemiologists were correct and influenza, which we all deal with every year, proves it.
6 other hunters got it at the same time, one was in hospital for 3 day, I spent 8 hr in the ER, other 4 guys had mild cases.Did any other Family Members get it from You?
My father in law just got out of ICU at Pres last week. He was in there because he had covid couldn't breath went on a ventilator. The reason people are in there so long isn't because they are unvaxxed and can't get over it! It is because the hospitals won't give you the care you need if you aren't vaxxed! MIL was told by one of the docs that her husband wouldn't be in the situation he is in if he got the shot and they told her he would have gotten a better lever of care from them if he was vaxxed! Couldn't believe they would actually say that! I think these people are dying on ventilators or staying in there for months is because the hospitals want the unvaxxed dead. Just my experience and opinion.I'd hate to be unvaccinated and end up in the hospital here. This from our news blog yesterday. We've had a surge of cases the last 2 weeks.
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One frustrated employee explained, “All the beds are taken. They’re talking about converting the PACU – post anesthesia care unit – into a secondary ICU because people are unvaccinated monsters!”
A nurse told us. “We are doing our best and our team is tired. They are just done.” The hospital is stretched thin to the point of having borrowed beds recently from Santa Rosa, and it recently had to make temporary modifications to rooms for COVID patients just to keep up.
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------------------------------------------------------------------St. Joe’s ICU Full, New COVID Rooms Crafted as Equipment and Staff Shortages Make Situation Desperate, Other Hospitals Facing Similar Situations
Staff at Eureka’s St. Joseph Hospital tell us the ICU is “incapcitated” with no additional beds available, and a lack of high acuity equipment to meet urgent needs, especially in the Emergency Department. In the Intensive Care Unit where COVID-19 cases are far outnumbering staff, they are...kymkemp.com
I'd hate to see what would happen if we had a real crisis like a big earthquake or something.
6 other hunters got it at the same time, one was in hospital for 3 day, I spent 8 hr in the ER, other 4 guys had mild cases.
Brothers and Wives all had at the same time, Brothers 3 days and no problems Wives had alot tougher time week to 10 days for them. They traced it back to one guy who had it. He was a retired farmer who went to 3 different towns for breakfast, lunch and dinner. Turn that area into a hot spot for the virus. Lots of people got in a short time.
Glad no one died from that time.
My father in law just got out of ICU at Pres last week. He was in there because he had covid couldn't breath went on a ventilator. The reason people are in there so long isn't because they are unvaxxed and can't get over it! It is because the hospitals won't give you the care you need if you aren't vaxxed! MIL was told by one of the docs that her husband wouldn't be in the situation he is in if he got the shot and they told her he would have gotten a better lever of care from them if he was vaxxed! Couldn't believe they would actually say that! I think these people are dying on ventilators or staying in there for months is because the hospitals want the unvaxxed dead. Just my experience and opinion.
Positive influenza test rates have been between 26.2-30.3% annually for the last three years. Last year, the positive test rate fell to .2% of over 800,000 samples collected by US Laboratories. If you think that is some testing anomaly and not a reduction in influenza rates during the pandemic then your mind is made up and you're looking for excuses to support a preconceived bias instead of examining the information and deducing the most logical conclusion. There is no basis in fact for alternative theories, just a desire to find an excuse that fits a narrative.Um, no.
The PCR tests "cured" the flu.
The same cloth masks that don't stop the Covid virus, don't stop the influenza one either.
Man, I'd bet the farm there are at least 623,000 people that make up that .002% who would feel all warm & fuzzy with that factoid.People generally don't die from it, kinda the point most of us are making. Glad none of you were part of the .002%!
In no way do I think we're done with influenza, I was merely talking about the record year in terms of low influenza rates when people went to the extreme protective measures that were seen last year.I don't think that's a foregone conclusion, as tempting and appealing as it might be. Mask wearing and social distancing didn't wipe out Covid-19 and they're both air born viruses floating around at the same time. Covid-19 might have eaten the flu virus.....I don't know.
Man, I'd bet the farm there are at least 623,000 people that make up that .002% who would feel all warm & fuzzy with that factoid.
I would say I have been in the "twilight years" for more than a decade now. I'm glad I'm still alive -- albeit barely. Though I wish it were more, I've had some good times in my waning days.How many of that 623,000 talley were in the twilight-sunset years of their life?
Odd, don't you think, that the number hasn't exponentially increased the way the talking heads say it should based on the imposed "mandate" from the "CDC"...
The rate of "excess deaths" in the USA calculated each year fluctuates by about 1-2% annually; obviously a very consistent number considering all the possible ways a person can die in a year.How many of that 623,000 talley were in the twilight-sunset years of their life?
Serious question... Is this a hyperbolic statement, or do you believe that to be literally accurate?I have a higher chance of dying from the vaccine itself than I do from getting the virus.
Even if that were true, it wouldn't account for over a half million more deaths than any other year. There weren't that many more car accidents than the previous yearThe truth is they have been counting flu cases as COVID cases. Also they have been counting random deaths like car accident deaths as COVID deaths, you ask why? Money, for every “COVID” death hospitals and doctors get a nice fat check that they otherwise would not get.
Fair enough.In no way do I think we're done with influenza, I was merely talking about the record year in terms of low influenza rates when people went to the extreme protective measures that were seen last year.
We don't have much information on what COVID would've been like without those measures, but we have a ton of information on influenza and the benefits last year are irrefutable.
Just to be clear, I don't think that's appropriate and am not advocating it. But that doesn't mean it didn't work.
Gorge Floyd had covid. only covid death in the country not tallied...The truth is they have been counting flu cases as COVID cases. Also they have been counting random deaths like car accident deaths as COVID deaths, you ask why? Money, for every “COVID” death hospitals and doctors get a nice fat check that they otherwise would not get.
Positive influenza test rates have been between 26.2-30.3% annually for the last three years. Last year, the positive test rate fell to .2% of over 800,000 samples collected by US Laboratories. If you think that is some testing anomaly and not a reduction in influenza rates during the pandemic then your mind is made up and you're looking for excuses to support a preconceived bias instead of examining the information and deducing the most logical conclusion. There is no basis in fact for alternative theories, just a desire to find an excuse that fits a narrative.
Also, you keep saying the same thing about masks as if you think they're meant to be a virus filter. They're not. The point behind a mask, even a cloth one, is the same reason that police use "spit masks" (with far larger mesh) on misbehaving criminals. They stop airborne droplets that contain viruses, not the actual virus itself. But the end result is still beneficial, just via a different means.
New Mexico, ABQWhat state?
It’s kind of a you name it situation, I don’t trust the government in anything they tell me, it’s pretty well know that the vaccine is not that effective in keeping you safe from the virus and in some cases it just straight up gives you the virus (like why would they even need a booster?!?) I’ve already had covid and so has most of my family and it was more equivalent to cold symptoms in my situation.Serious question... Is this a hyperbolic statement, or do you believe that to be literally accurate?
I'm just wondering if your hesitancy to get the vaccine is due to governmental distrust, belief in ineffectiveness, safety concerns, etc... Or if it's because you believe the vaccine is killing certain segments at a greater rate than COVID.
I have no interest in trying to convince you to get vaccinated, it's your call. I'm just interested in your line of thinking as it's different than mine.
I respect your right to be vaccinated or not. I do, however, recommend you speak to your doctor about some of the information you're sharing as I believe it to be inaccurate.it’s pretty well know that the vaccine is not that effective in keeping you safe from the virus and in some cases it just straight up gives you the virus
That's a common myth right now. Tobacco products are regulated by the FDA, not approved by the FDA.FYI…..Cigarettes are FDA approved too.
Too many stories like that. I'm so glad your son was able to pull through. That's every parents worst nightmare.Just got off the phone with our middle son. He is a senior executive for a large engineering firm. His immediate management office has 10 people in it, three vaccinated 7 not. This week all 7 got covid other 3 fine so far. Several are really ill.
Our daughter-law is a senior RN in a large hospital, all of their ICU beds are full and have been for a while. I guess the nursing staff feel so overwhelmed that Wednesday they told the hospital administration " reduce the number in ICU or we all are going to resign". They are now shipping some patients to facilities out of state.
My wife and I are both in the high risk group, got the needle in March no side effects. Our youngest son got covid back at the first of the year and he about passed...it was a scary experience for our family.
Even if that were true, it wouldn't account for over a half million more deaths than any other year. There weren't that many more car accidents than the previous year
You realize that's not an actual news source, right? It's a libertarian website. Also, the UK "data" is from Chriswalderbuger.substack.com. The Swedish "data" is from BadCattitude.com. The Johns Hopkins "data" is a student editorial column by somebody named Yanni Gu and is not a published study.Johns Hopkins: COVID Has Had No Effect On US Death Rate
Update 8/25/21: UK data shows vaxed dying at higher rate than unvaxed. Swedish data shows no excess deaths, mirroring this censored Hopkins study. “Therefore, according to Briand, not only h…libertariannews.org
Just got off the phone with our middle son. He is a senior executive for a large engineering firm. His immediate management office has 10 people in it, three vaccinated 7 not. This week all 7 got covid other 3 fine so far. Several are really ill.
Our daughter-law is a senior RN in a large hospital, all of their ICU beds are full and have been for a while. I guess the nursing staff feel so overwhelmed that Wednesday they told the hospital administration " reduce the number in ICU or we all are going to resign". They are now shipping some patients to facilities out of state.
My wife and I are both in the high risk group, got the needle in March no side effects. Our youngest son got covid back at the first of the year and he about passed...it was a scary experience for our family.
Yeah those right wing conspiracy pushers at john Hopkins putting those numbers outYou realize that's not an actual news source, right? It's a libertarian website. Also, the UK "data" is from Chriswalderbuger.substack.com. The Swedish "data" is from BadCattitude.com. The Johns Hopkins "data" is a student editorial column by somebody named Yanni Gu and is not a published study.
I could post actual links from everybody from USA Today, to Reuters, AP, CDC, and Journal of American Medicine showing increased death numbers with actual statistics and studies, but if you really want to read them, they're easy to find. It's clear you'd rather read some random dudes blog looking for validation than real peer-reviewed data so I won't waste my time.
You totally missed the 3% measles reference above and now you've missed that the information you're referring to isn't from Johns Hopkins, it's from "Johns Hopkins News-Letter" which is their student-run newspaper. A student named Yanni Gu wrote that in November 2020 and it is in no way a peer-reviewed study released by Johns Hopkins.Yeah those right wing conspiracy pushers at john Hopkins putting those numbers out
you think USA Today is reputable!! That actually explains a lotYou realize that's not an actual news source, right? It's a libertarian website. Also, the UK "data" is from Chriswalderbuger.substack.com. The Swedish "data" is from BadCattitude.com. The Johns Hopkins "data" is a student editorial column by somebody named Yanni Gu and is not a published study.
I could post actual links from everybody from USA Today, to Reuters, AP, CDC, and Journal of American Medicine showing increased death numbers with actual statistics and studies, but if you really want to read them, they're easy to find. It's clear you'd rather read some random dudes blog looking for validation than real peer-reviewed data so I won't waste my time.
Yeah those right wing conspiracy pushers at john Hopkins putting those numbers out
The author of the first link you posted has NO connection John Hopkins & is merely using the stuff written in the John Hopkins news letter written by YANNI GU.you think USA Today is reputable!! That actually explains a lot
I’m aware.You believe the death rates are false? Pretty easy numbers to find wether you like the particular article I posted or not. Like I said, numbers are inconvenient and also non partisanThe author of the first link you posted has NO connection John Hopkins & is merely using the stuff written in the John Hopkins news letter written by YANNI GU.
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My wife works in the laboratory of our local hospital. She is one of 4 that do all the testing. She is the one in charge of reporting results that go to the state. Since July 2020, they have been running the majority of their covid tests on what is called a BioFire FilmArray. This is a state of the art PCR test analyzer. It is the most accurate test in her hospital. The only way the covid tests come is on a panel that tests for 21 different respiratory diseases at once including all the most common strains of influenza, RSV, and all the other most common respiratory viruses. They have not had a single positive influenza on this or any other flu testing method they have done for this entire past year. They have always had numerous positives every winter including dozens a month on the slowest flu years during winter.As for testing.
Get sick. Go get tested. Symptoms are the same as Covid and flu. So a Covid test is done. 2-3 days later(remember we didn't have rapid tests) and person is negative, in most cases their flu has subsided, no one pursed results or further testing.
Flu didn't go away. Office visits did. Flu testing did. Not to mention that schools being closed had a huge effect.
The same stats are reflected in cancer, heart disease, etc, etc. Folks stayed away from the Dr, or used telemed. Caner rates didn't go down, looking for it did.
There is also that thing called a profit motive. Covid pays better than flu. And before you roll your eyes, go look at the scam Cuomo had going in NY.
What I believe is this: thousands of people that have died throughout the world would be alive today were it not for contracting C-19. That includes at least one person in my extended family & one neighbor who lived two doors down the street. I was fortunate to not have joined them -- at least for the time being. And if I could get the vax without undue exposure, I'd do so in a heartbeat.I’m aware.You believe the death rates are false? Pretty easy numbers to find wether you like the particular article I posted or not. Like I said, numbers are inconvenient and also non partisan
No, the issue is not about YOU.It’s also pretty telling that the issue raised is with the author and not one mention of the content/ statistics. Typical tactic, I’ll be expected to be called racist here any minute
Ok. How about the cdc. You seem to trust them. The claim on here was hundreds of thousands MORE deaths. Simply not the case. So either the top five historical killers in this nation got cured with out so much as a headline or the reporting a bit fishy. You tell meNo, the issue is not about YOU.
It is the same ol' there are lies & then there are statistics. Too often they are one in the same, especially when the person doing the intrepreting has no credentials or peer review of the conclusions.
John Hopkins News Letter:
Staff Writers: Muhammad Abidi, Ryan Aghamohammadi, William Blair, Allison Chen, Will Edmonds, Yanni Gu, Rachel Huang, Medha Kallem, Keidai Lee, Jake Lefkovitz, Vivian Li, Bessie Liu, Derek Moritz, Teresa Ng, Peter Novello, Shivni Patel, Jonathan Patterson, Addy Perlman, Isha Rai, Meghana Ravi, Laís Santoro, Tim Shade, Ananta Srivastava, Isabel Thomas, Yoosoo Yeo, Eliza Zimmerman
That may be true but those same folks or other unhealthy folks will die that same year according to the death rate stats. No matter how you dice it, the same number of deaths will be there.What I believe is this: thousands of people that have died throughout the world would be alive today were it not for contracting C-19. That includes at least one person in my extended family & one neighbor who lived two doors down the street. I was fortunate to not have joined them -- at least for the time being. And if I could get the vax without undue exposure, I'd do so in a heartbeat.
there's no money in a positive "flu" test......
Why doesn't the gov even acknowledge that a person that had covid would have immunity???Why get vaccinated for something I've already had? Odd you don't hear about antibodies even though they are very real.
You should die on your own terms, not because someone who believes the earth is flat gave you the ‘rona.
New Mexico, ABQ
The "solution" is to follow orders and get vaccinated. Not a word about antibodies, treatments, or things you can do to enhance your immune system like losing weight or quit smoking, etc. It's all about the vaccine.Why get vaccinated for something I've already had? Odd you don't hear about antibodies even though they are very real.
Excellent post with real world input. Thank you.My wife works in the laboratory of our local hospital. She is one of 4 that do all the testing. She is the one in charge of reporting results that go to the state. Since July 2020, they have been running the majority of their covid tests on what is called a BioFire FilmArray. This is a state of the art PCR test analyzer. It is the most accurate test in her hospital. The only way the covid tests come is on a panel that tests for 21 different respiratory diseases at once including all the most common strains of influenza, RSV, and all the other most common respiratory viruses. They have not had a single positive influenza on this or any other flu testing method they have done for this entire past year. They have always had numerous positives every winter including dozens a month on the slowest flu years during winter.
She also told me that they did not have a single RSV positive last winter which is normally as prevalent as the flu. It is usually just a common cold for adults but can be deadly in small children and infants. They finally have had a small handful of RSVs in June and July after masking and distancing stopped. This same trend has happened all over the country.
Also in the early days when tests were in short supply, the protocol given them from the state was to run a rapid flu test first to rule it out before wasting a covid test. There have been no shortage of timely flu tests run at our hospital and still 0 positives.
It sure would seem obvious that distancing and masking caused this. Most other theories take a lot of mental gymnastics to believe.
That is ludicrous. The last 50 years has taught me you are absolutely in control of your own destiny. With discipline and hard work you can lap most of the sheep.The past 5 years have taught me one thing, it doesn't matter what you want. What's going to happen is going to happen and thinking you have control over it is an illusion.
As far as anti gov't goes, it's more about being anti mandate...
Yeah, only in NM.
Your chart is inaccurate. The current CDC count for deaths in 2020 (not yet finalized) is 3,358,814. The chart you're referencing was shared on Facebook months ago but is false.Ok. How about the cdc. You seem to trust them. The claim on here was hundreds of thousands MORE deaths. Simply not the case. So either the top five historical killers in this nation got cured with out so much as a headline or the reporting a bit fishy. You tell me
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Thanks DW I'm glad we all made thru.People generally don't die from it, kinda the point most of us are making. Glad none of you were part of the .002%!
That is ludicrous. The last 50 years has taught me you are absolutely in control of your own destiny. With discipline and hard work you can lap most of the sheep.
Recalibrate dude.
Even if that were true, it wouldn't account for over a half million more deaths than any other year. There weren't that many more car accidents than the previous year
Your claim of half a million more deaths is also inaccurate and just fear mongering.Your chart is inaccurate. The current CDC count for deaths in 2020 (not yet finalized) is 3,358,814. The chart you're referencing was shared on Facebook months ago but is false.
Provisional Mortality Data — United States, 2020
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Those are the same 2019 numbers again. That 2.855MM is the same amount as the 2019 number on the slide you posted. The slide you posted had false numbers for 2020 (which is actually 3.358MM). I posted the actual 2020 numbers later and then you countered it with the same 2019 numbers againYour claim of half a million more deaths is also inaccurate and just fear mongering.
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And here come the personal attacks.I know there 2019 number and there not a half million less. Your a party member so I know you have to repeat the lines. Stalin refers to your kind as useful idiots. And enough of you are very useful to the cause
And here come the personal attacks.
You've laid down your king, sir.
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PS. It's "they're" and "you're" and it is attributed to Lenin, not Stalin.
Dude give it up.I know there 2019 number and there not a half million less. Your a party member so I know you have to repeat the lines. Stalin refers to your kind as useful idiots. And enough of you are very useful to the cause
I know there 2019 number and there not a half million less. Your a party member so I know you have to repeat the lines. Stalin refers to your kind as useful idiots. And enough of you are very useful to the cause