>muleymemories, I have a buddy who
>used a badlands 4500 for
>many years. He said it
>was a good pack.The last
>few years he has used
>the eberlstock J104 and I
>have to assume since he's
>using it instead of the
>4500 says something about the
>pack.People come in all shapes
>and sizes.Sounds like your build
>is not a good fit
>with the pack. If there
>was a quality issue that
>is one thing, but to
>bash a product based on
>it not fitting you right
>is absurd.If you get sore
>shoulders from the eberlstock, it's
>because it does not fit
>your tors
ne thing I like
>about the J104 is the
>compartments are IMO a lot
>more suited for western hunting
>than any pack on the
>market.After four years of abuse
>this pack is showing no
>wear and tear at all.It's
>a tough pack.
>
>Mike
I did the exact opposite as you, I sold my j 107 to get a badlands 4500. The badlands is heads and shoulders above the elberlestock IMHO.. I can shoot my bow with my badlands on, not so much with my j107 on. Also I liked the compartments in the badlands much better.