State Game Director Accused Of Illegally Killing Deer

no_catch · Nov 28, 2007

What do you guys think the outcome will be?
http://www.koat.com/news/14707326/detail.html

thebuckstopshere · Nov 28, 2007

LAST EDITED ON Nov-28-07 AT 01:39PM (MST)[p]As the story reads, if true, I hope he is treated like any other hunter who unintentionally violates wildlife regulations.

nmtaxi · Nov 28, 2007

It's true. The story is on the NMG&F website.
http://www.wildlife.state.nm.us/publications/press_releases/documents/2007/112707thompsoncharges.htm

gilamonster8 · Nov 28, 2007

He sounds like a standup guy that made a huge mistake,im sure he will pay for it too, I hope he doesnt lose his job.

overton · Nov 28, 2007

LAST EDITED ON Nov-28-07 AT 02:05PM (MST)[p]He needs to learn how to read his GPS. Or how to enter public land. He sounds like a standup guy and I hope it works out for him.

Ransom

sonofthesouth · Nov 28, 2007

I dont know, on sept 24, 2007, I watched and took pictures of a NMGF officer drive a buck with his personal truck cut him off and then shoot him from the cab of that truck. this is not a made up story I HAVE THE PICS. When I reported it, they didnt even call me back for several days and then when they did they informed me that "the warden was going to very upset with me and probably sue me" Is this the warning they give everybody that reports a crime? They then asked if I could bring the pics to Albuquerque, if it had been joe six pack they would have moved heaven and earth to go get those pictures. I have the pictures I have the taped conversations, I just dont have much faith that they are really "stand up guys" It seems like the crime is a crime if they have a problem with the person.

Son

overton · Nov 28, 2007

Son

I think I'd pursue this until it was settled. What part of NM did this happen?

Ransom

cohntr6 · Nov 28, 2007

Take it to the media SoS or the governer, sounds like some are willing to try and whitewash you.
As for the original post, I dont know how anybody can say that dude is "a standup guy" by reading the short, vague article. If it is that cut and dry the dude should be in some hot water (ticketed and severely reprimanded ESPECIALLY because of his position).
Jeff

spitz · Nov 28, 2007

Son,

let's see some of those pics!

gilamonster8 · Nov 28, 2007

im not sayin he should'nt pay the price. I just hope they dont go over the top just because of his job. He should pay the same price as you or I, if we made the same mistake. You can bet the anti's will want his job.

huntsonora · Nov 28, 2007

>im not sayin he should'nt pay
>the price. I just hope
>they dont go over the
>top just because of his
>job. He should pay the
>same price as you or
>I, if we made the
>same mistake. You can bet
>the anti's will want his
>job.

Agreed...

As for his statement:

"I have cooperated with the investigation and I will accept the consequences of my HONEST mistake," Director Thompson said. "I APPARENTLY used an INCORRECT ENTRY IN MY GPS unit while conducting my hunt, but that is no excuse, and I expect to be treated like any other hunter who UNINTENTIALLY violates wildlife regulations."

I wonder if he is being treated the same as other hunters who make honest mistakes, that apparently have a lapse in judgement and that unintentionally violate wildlife regulations? The directors statement, to me, seems like damage control. I would much rather hear him say that he simply screwed up and that he will face the consequenses just as any hunter would, regardless of intent.

Here is another question, if New Mexico law does not make allowances for lack of intent then why would he state that he wants to be treated like any other hunter that unINTENTionally violates wildlife regulations?

Drum

AZ402 · Nov 29, 2007

I can't believe this story doesn't have a hundred posts already? I guess you have to be an outfitter or a regocnized name on MM to crucified by the internet heroes.....

huntsonora · Nov 29, 2007

>I can't believe this story doesn't
>have a hundred posts already?
> I guess you have
>to be an outfitter or
>a regocnized name on MM
>to crucified by the internet
>heroes.....

Truer words have never been spoken on MM....

Deerlove · Nov 29, 2007

I guess it's because it wasn't a 400 bull shot in someones back yard.

jbone · Nov 29, 2007

Well, I made a post over on the bowsite about this. I think there are many reasons why people do not comment on it. Personally, I think a lot has to do with people's fears of their applications being lost, not getting drawn, etc. This may be true or false, or perhaps, this guy is salt of the earth and did in fact make a mistake. Or perhaps, we all know that lines can get blurred when distinguishing between

For me, I call the BS card. If you look at the G&F website, the story is updated. Apparently, he turned himself in AFTER he shot a deer AND AFTER he was spotted by an outfitter AND AFTER the landowner notified G&F. So, I have a couple of questions, #1 Did he really turn himself in? #2How can you punch in the wrong codes on a GPS? (especially in this day and age of digital maps)

I would like to know the full story because I am sure that we are only hearing some of it. It would also be interesting to read the report of this as well.....isn't that public record?

JBone

Gator · Nov 29, 2007

Hell I would be worried if I was the outfitter,

Hooked_on_Coues · Nov 29, 2007

What about outright, blatant dishonest mistakes Drum?

Should we be hearing about those too?

Hmmm....

ElmerFudd · Nov 29, 2007

A person in a position of trust should not be treated like anyone else. He/she should be accountable to a higher standard than anyone else. He/she should be more careful than the average Joe not to break th rules. Consequences for breaking rules should be higher for such a person. NM is pretty light on hunting violation fines compared to other western states.

goinBIG · Nov 29, 2007

I'm callin "B.S." on his GPS mistake. String him up!

cabinfever · Nov 29, 2007

I can sympathize with this guy. I have unintentionally found myself on the wrong side of the fence before. This year I accompanied my brothers on their hunt and while hiking into an area we found ourselves on the inside of a fence we never crossed. The fact is, some of these ranches are so large and neither the LO or the public is really clear on boundries. While some states differ on laws about posting private, I think it should be a universal law that the LO clearly mark their property lines if they want enforcement officers to enforce the No Trespassing laws.

Unfortunately, this guy will probably pay dearly for his unintentional mistake.

Oh, and I too can't believe the MM angles havent hung this guy out to dry.

Mike

GilaJeff · Nov 29, 2007

I know this man personally, and can attest to his honesty, and genuine personality. He is a super nice guy, and I can't imagine he would do anything unethical intentionally.

sonofthesouth · Nov 30, 2007

Try telling the guys that own Ramah Lake that. We leased our lake to the state for 25 years for a set price, and for some of the general work to be done. From the beginning and for the last 20 years of that lease the NMFG has violated the contract by not doing what they had agreed to do, leaving the responsibility to fall on this small irrigation Co. It has cost us more to do the work that they were contractually obligated to do than we have ever received in lease money and is this "honest" man concerned about honoring that contract, or reimbursing us? We asked and the answer is NO. I can give you a long list of Irrigation Co. members that are not nearly as impressed with this man as you. In fact they feel the exact opposite. Maybe if he were are personal friend we would be treated differently, but I can guarantee you that as the majority share holder in that Co. that lease will never be renewed and that's to bad because it provides some of the best fishing to the general public in the state. We just can't afford to do business with the NMGF.

Son

Ropinfool · Nov 30, 2007

Hang him!!! True, anybody else would hang. Isn't it the hunters responsiblity to know where you are at....no excuses. I don't buy is dumb story about the GPS either.

DougW · Nov 30, 2007

Thank you Elmer for pointing that out.

His actions should be the most accountable of anyone in NM. Therefore if guilty he should definitely lose his job. How completely ridiculous this looks to the anti's, and if he doesn't lose his job, that's bad for all of us.

Oh, wait, this is NM, I forgot. All bets are off.

cabinfever · Nov 30, 2007

Looks like the lynch mob was out to lunch. Glad there back. I was getting a little worried.

Mike

overton · Nov 30, 2007

I sure hope I never make a mistake. LOL

Ransom

cabinfever · Nov 30, 2007

ropeinfool, do you really think a guy in his standing would risk everything to Trespass. I doubt it. This guy will no doubt pay for it, or the public will cry favoritism and based on his statement he expects nothing less.

Mike

Ropinfool · Nov 30, 2007

Or better yet....taze him!!.....lol.

Ropinfool · Nov 30, 2007

I'm sure he has friends and will only pay a small fine and keep his hunting privileges.

AWHOLELOTTABULL · Nov 30, 2007

I don't think that they have any choice but to press charges. It makes it kinda hard to press charges on anybody else in the future if they don't do it in this case.

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