Spread credit or actual spread in gross score?

[npaden]

LAST EDITED ON Nov-10-09 AT 01:48PM (MST)[p]Well, I guess I overstated my gross score on my deer I shot Sunday. It has a 24" inside spread, but it's left main beam is only 22 3/8" (the right beam is only 20 1/8")so according to B&C I only get 22 3/8" spread credit. That drops him down to 180 1/4". :-(

I made the mistake of using the Typical scoring sheet first and with a little over 10" of abnormal points and some variations from side to side on individual points it dropped him all the way down under 150" for a net score!

I know nets are for fish, but I'm kind of bummed about the spread credit. It seems to be cheating the deer out of his hard earned spread!

Do all of you limit yourself to the longest main beam when stating a gross score or do you count the actual inside spread when stating a gross score?

Just curious.

Nathan

 

[YELUM]

Well, without a G3 on the left side, the deduction there hurt you more than the spread credit. But its a great buck so go ahead and call it a 180 class buck a be happy. Your son obviously doesn't care what it scores.

Yelum

 

[Dahlmer]

>Do all of you limit yourself
>to the longest main beam
>when stating a gross score
>or do you count the
>actual inside spread when stating
>a gross score?
>
>Just curious.
>
>Nathan

Technically, the spread credit cannot be higher than the longest main beam and the actual inside spread never factors into the score, gross or otherwise.

It's a great buck, as you said biggest you've ever killed. 1 or 2 inches makes no difference.

 

[Muleymemories]

spread credit.


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[npaden]

>Technically, the spread credit cannot be
>higher than the longest main
>beam and the actual inside
>spread never factors into the
>score, gross or otherwise.
>
>It's a great buck, as you
>said biggest you've ever killed.
> 1 or 2 inches
>makes no difference.

Yeah, I've very happy with it.

I was just curious as I didn't realize you were limited to the length of the main beam. Some of the bucks you see posted with 30" spreads look like they probably only have 25" main beams or less and it would make a pretty big difference in the gross score. On my buck it only was 1 5/8" difference and it still topped 180" so I'm happy.

I was hoping for a 170"er so this one makes that easily!

 

[npaden]

>Well, without a G3 on the
>left side, the deduction there
>hurt you more than the
>spread credit. But its
>a great buck so go
>ahead and call it a
>180 class buck a be
>happy. Your son obviously
>doesn't care what it scores.
>
>
>Yelum

I thought it does have a g3 on the left side? It has a split coming off the g2 so wouldn't that be the g3? It's not a perfect fork, but I was still counting it as the g3?

 

[shelbys]

Gotta use spread credit, even for gross score. I hate that rule, I think for gross you should be able use actual spread credit, instead of reduced spread credit that = the longest main beam.

Most of the big bucks we've killed over the years get reduced down for spread credit, usually an inch or two.

 

[ColoradoOak]

>Some of
>the bucks you see posted
>with 30" spreads look like
>they probably only have 25"
>main beams or less and
>it would make a pretty
>big difference in the gross
>score.

There are exceedingly few deer posted with 30" inside spreads.

 

[ElmerFudd]

Spread does not equate to antler mass. If I were king...I would say spread does not factor at all, zero credit.

Also, B&C does not give enough credit to mass, just four circumference measurements on each side. Volume (proportional to mass if density is constant) is a function the square of the diameter integrated over the length. Heavy horns are cheated badly in both B&C and SCI...That's my main beef with the systems.


Anyway, it is what it is and is the accepted system.....

 

[YELUM]

npaden, sorry for the confusion. From the pic with your son, it looked like there was no fork off the G3, but I see your hand is hiding it. My bad.

Dahlmer
Actually, if the longest beam is 25 inches, and the inside spread is 24, the the actual inside spread is used in both gr, and net score.

Yelum

 

[w2u]

B&C scoring is stupid...if you really want to determine what buck/elk has the most antler, cut the antlers off and weigh them. Spread doesn't measure antlers...it should never be included in scoring, and a deer/elk's antler mass is not given enough credit in B&C scores...

...forget about what an animals scores and simply enjoy them for what they are!

 

[mywifeishotterthentiffany]

Nice buck whatever the score says. I would shoot it.



"Let's keep things in perspective.I mean for Peet's sake there are kids in Africa that don't even hunt....hello" Jimmy Big Time

 

[sageadvice]

LAST EDITED ON Nov-11-09 AT 11:29AM (MST)[p]"B&C scoring is stupid...if you really want to determine what buck/elk has the most antler, cut the antlers off and weigh them."


That's pretty funny! There is nothing stupid about B&C scoring. It's been the original scoring process for many years with very minor improvements. Nobody makes you score your animal their way but it is the standard to which most, however scored bucks, are compared. Not saying it's a perfect system but to cut the antlers off...THAT is stupid.


Joey