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rclark
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Is it worth it to start collecting prefrence points in wyoming.
Cornhusker
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If you want to hunt quality areas it is worth buying points in fact its the only way for a nonresident. I burned my antelope points last year elk this year both good tags. I'll start all over again with elk points next year.
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rclark
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how many points are needed for a good muley hunt.
elks96
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Well that is a loaded question. What exactly is your definition of a good mule deer hunt? Actually the WY system is new enough that very few of the top units have reached the point max. So basically many of them are max points to draw. However WY system always allows you a chance to draw even with out having the highest points. Ultimately, yes it is worth building points. Start asap and build points. For me I have hunted WY 3 years now for deer in general units easy to draw. They were 3 of my best hunts ever, and way more enjoyable than the hunts I have had here in CO. In my 3 trips I have killed 24" 4x4. A 30" 6x7. And my last buck was a big heavy 3x4 that was atleast 9 years old. The best part about the Wyoming hunts I have been on is the ability to find mature bucks. Not always the biggest racks, but the youngest buck I have taken was 4 oldest over 9 and one placed right at age 7.
Do it a good deer hunt can be had in 3-4 years, however the top units will take years just like every where else.
Do it a good deer hunt can be had in 3-4 years, however the top units will take years just like every where else.
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All the deer are dead in Wyoming. I'd look elsewhere...I hear Utah has a ton.
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"SMOKESTICK (685 posts)
Sep-05-12, 03:45 PM (MST)
"Proposed License Fees for Wyoming"
Here is the new proposed license fees as they were presented at the Joint Travel, Recreation, Wildlife and Cultural Resource Committee meeting, held August 23, 2012 in Jackson, WY.
Mule deer and Whitetail deer licenses will become species specific but no variation of license fee was presented, so I am assuming all deer licenses would cost the same.
Resident:
Antelope: from $31 to $48
Deer: $36 to $52
Elk: $50 to $75
Moose: $110 to $175
Big Horn Sheep: $115 to $250
Mountain Goat: $120 to $260
Black Bear: $43 to $52.50
Daily Fishing: $4 to $7
Annual Fishing: $22 to $36
Non-resident:
Antelope: from $270 to $370
Deer: $310 to $520
Elk: $575 to $750
Moose: $1400 to $1750
Big Horn Sheep: remains @ $2500
Mountain Goat: $2150 to $2600
Black Bear: $360 to $437.50
Daily Fishing: remains @ $12
Annual Fishing: remains @ $90
Other Licenses:
Conservation Stamp: $12 to $14.50
Res. Archery: $14 to $17
Non-res. Archery: $28 to $34
Res. Application Fee: $5 to $6
Non-res. App. Fee: $14 to $17
Reduced Fees:
Res. Annual Game Bird: $14 to $10
Res. Small Game: $14 to $10
Res. Combo GB/SG: $22 to $15
So, what do you think?"
This quote is from the Executive Director of SFW-Wyoming.
Robb
Sep-05-12, 03:45 PM (MST)
"Proposed License Fees for Wyoming"
Here is the new proposed license fees as they were presented at the Joint Travel, Recreation, Wildlife and Cultural Resource Committee meeting, held August 23, 2012 in Jackson, WY.
Mule deer and Whitetail deer licenses will become species specific but no variation of license fee was presented, so I am assuming all deer licenses would cost the same.
Resident:
Antelope: from $31 to $48
Deer: $36 to $52
Elk: $50 to $75
Moose: $110 to $175
Big Horn Sheep: $115 to $250
Mountain Goat: $120 to $260
Black Bear: $43 to $52.50
Daily Fishing: $4 to $7
Annual Fishing: $22 to $36
Non-resident:
Antelope: from $270 to $370
Deer: $310 to $520
Elk: $575 to $750
Moose: $1400 to $1750
Big Horn Sheep: remains @ $2500
Mountain Goat: $2150 to $2600
Black Bear: $360 to $437.50
Daily Fishing: remains @ $12
Annual Fishing: remains @ $90
Other Licenses:
Conservation Stamp: $12 to $14.50
Res. Archery: $14 to $17
Non-res. Archery: $28 to $34
Res. Application Fee: $5 to $6
Non-res. App. Fee: $14 to $17
Reduced Fees:
Res. Annual Game Bird: $14 to $10
Res. Small Game: $14 to $10
Res. Combo GB/SG: $22 to $15
So, what do you think?"
This quote is from the Executive Director of SFW-Wyoming.
Robb
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My butt cheeks just clinched from reading the proposed license fee increases. OUCH!!
"Courage is being scared to death but saddling up anyway."
"Courage is being scared to death but saddling up anyway."
Is the points fee gouge going up along with everything else? If not, the actual cost of the license plus 10 or more times the points gouge won't really be going up much in percentage. If so, WOW!
But the price is pretty high for the easier to draw licenses... Approaching the prices that caused so many to not buy OTC ID and MT licenses... They are definitly pushing market limits. It willimprove odds for those who can afford/don't mind paying more.
But the price is pretty high for the easier to draw licenses... Approaching the prices that caused so many to not buy OTC ID and MT licenses... They are definitly pushing market limits. It willimprove odds for those who can afford/don't mind paying more.
Pref Points for Non-res aren't on the radar to increase. Res will pay 12$ or something silly. You can go to the WGFD website and submit comments about their increases here:http://gf.state.wy.us/WGFD_WebSurvey/CommentOnly.aspx
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I cannot find this survey. Even the link on their website just takes me to the main page.
I love hunting antelope, but $370 for a speedgoat, what the He!!?
They propose a 36% increase in fees while there is no inflation (according to the Feds) and average family income is down ~8% over the last 4 years. These morons in Wyoming must be in cahoots with the officials in Idaho!
I love hunting antelope, but $370 for a speedgoat, what the He!!?
They propose a 36% increase in fees while there is no inflation (according to the Feds) and average family income is down ~8% over the last 4 years. These morons in Wyoming must be in cahoots with the officials in Idaho!
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Whoa, whoa, whoa--as someone new to hunting Wyoming (second year) the increase may just have me backing the hell up for next year. $370 for a speed goat? And now how much for a doe?
Haven't they read what is goin on in Idaho and Montana with their F&G depts taking substantial hits due to the increase in fees (okay, and the economy) holding back commitments from the non-residents who dump a sh*t load of money into their depts as well as the local areas they hunt???
Ugh.....I need something for my headache.
Haven't they read what is goin on in Idaho and Montana with their F&G depts taking substantial hits due to the increase in fees (okay, and the economy) holding back commitments from the non-residents who dump a sh*t load of money into their depts as well as the local areas they hunt???
Ugh.....I need something for my headache.
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LAST EDITED ON Sep-20-12 AT 03:18PM (MST)[p]As a nonresident I am really upset about the fee hikes. Basically I feel as they have lured me in with me buying points (and now I am committed) the last 5 years. At over $100 per year for y have my points I am in at $500 already and not drawing. Now they do this and my elk tag could easily push $2000 just for my tag.
Figure a guy puts in for elk (I believe the elk point only is $70) It takes 10 years to draw that point, so they have $700 in points and then a tag fee for over $1000.... The only way they will keep the hunters, is because they have us over a barrel.
Now mix that with the idea that someday I want to be a resident and live in WY, and when I move I loose all my points built and my investment in the system. It could be enough to keep me from relocating... WY is going to mess up with those fees being that high.... Added to the fact is will also take from me several 100 dollars for points....
OK, I will admit I am a little high on my prices, but you get the point. I feel like I am now stuck applying in WY and that my original idea of spending points and a tag as $1000 has now doubled to $2000....
Figure a guy puts in for elk (I believe the elk point only is $70) It takes 10 years to draw that point, so they have $700 in points and then a tag fee for over $1000.... The only way they will keep the hunters, is because they have us over a barrel.
Now mix that with the idea that someday I want to be a resident and live in WY, and when I move I loose all my points built and my investment in the system. It could be enough to keep me from relocating... WY is going to mess up with those fees being that high.... Added to the fact is will also take from me several 100 dollars for points....
OK, I will admit I am a little high on my prices, but you get the point. I feel like I am now stuck applying in WY and that my original idea of spending points and a tag as $1000 has now doubled to $2000....
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rclark
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Thanks for all the imput.I am already collecting elk points I was just thinking of starting deer points. I have a 30" deer and a heavy 165" 3x4 so I want a good deer.I have never hunted wy for mule deer.
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Are those prices for the regular or special?
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LAST EDITED ON Sep-20-12 AT 06:54PM (MST)[p]As an NR I've hunted Wyoming for a long time. I'm not excited about paying more but really, the cost of that tag is only about 1/3 the cost of the trip. So, instead of costing $1,600 to spend a week deer hunting in Wyoming it'll now cost $1,800. It'll take a lot more than that to keep me from going. People will complain but I'll bet it won't reduce the aps 5%. So yes, to answer your question. If you do your homework and avoid the units that get all the pub you can have a pretty good deer hunt every 3 - 4 years.
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>Are those prices for the regular
>or special?
Regular. I have not seen nor am i wanting to see the special... That will really hurt....
I also disagree with the number of hunters who will not hunt. There will be an even greater decrease in apps from this. Simply put many hunters are already on the bubble if not out of the hunt all together. With fuel cost up, and everything else up, including unemployment, people are simply cutting out things not necessary.
The worst idea is to raise prices to gain money in the midst of an economic crisis. If you owned a restaurant that was struggling would you compensate by raising your prices over 30%? Making your prices higher than near by competition? Or would you find ways to make your product a better value and a better deal than the comp?
Luckily in Colorado we should never see this sort of one time over the top increase. Our is tied directly to the CPI and inflation etc....
Gues I might have to cash in the 401K to hunt WY next time.
>or special?
Regular. I have not seen nor am i wanting to see the special... That will really hurt....
I also disagree with the number of hunters who will not hunt. There will be an even greater decrease in apps from this. Simply put many hunters are already on the bubble if not out of the hunt all together. With fuel cost up, and everything else up, including unemployment, people are simply cutting out things not necessary.
The worst idea is to raise prices to gain money in the midst of an economic crisis. If you owned a restaurant that was struggling would you compensate by raising your prices over 30%? Making your prices higher than near by competition? Or would you find ways to make your product a better value and a better deal than the comp?
Luckily in Colorado we should never see this sort of one time over the top increase. Our is tied directly to the CPI and inflation etc....
Gues I might have to cash in the 401K to hunt WY next time.
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Non-resident "special" prices are proposed to increase as follows:
Pronghorn - $512 to $660
Deer - $552 to $810
Elk - $1,057 to $1,330
Pronghorn - $512 to $660
Deer - $552 to $810
Elk - $1,057 to $1,330
