Alot of those elk get pushed out of the unit to the SW by 2nd season. Im sure there is still alot of resident elk around. Please don't crucify me for my comments. Good advice to get local guided or non guided advice. Like you said 13pts should tell u something. I dont think you need a pack in...
Was going to use the word "effluent" but it seemed all the same in this situation but if you don't want to pass on some reverent information for an otc hunter..thats all cool..you have made your ? ?