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I got two $50 charges at 7:55 am today. Not the amounts I was hoping for.

100 tags - first 20 go to landowners - 80 tags left for the Res/NR split. Prior to this year NR got 35% so 28 tags - now they get 25% so 20 tags.

Actually it would be 8 less for NR on a 100 tag unit.

Not having time to scout is minor. Getting the tag is the bigger issue and nearly impossible when you tens of thousands of people clicking away simultaneously on the Wednesday am chit show.

I tried for a hunt code with 3 tags and hit the Confirm Choices button at 9:00:10 and they were all gone. I can't click any faster than that.

I've never been a fanboy of TV personalities but if I could choose one to spend a high country hunt with, it would be Nate Simmons.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but going complete draw would mean 20% of the tags going into the Landowner Preference Program which would suck.

I haven’t figured it out yet. There was one tag I really wanted last year so I drove an hour to a restaurant that had fast internet but still struck out and there was a handful of tags for that hunt code. CPW staff actually prefers random populating but the commissioners over ruled them and...

I lost my excitement when they did away with random populating and went to the Wednesday morning fastest internet race and a system that cant handle the instantaneous load.

Skiba is Wildlife Program Manager of San Juan Citizens Alliance. Below is copy and pasted from their website: Wolves in Colorado Wolves have long stirred strong emotions in this country and still do. The idea of bringing wolves back to Colorado generates passionate support as well as die-hard...

Reading Murphy's bio, I'm not sure what we have here. Skiba was a former CPW biologist and from an era when most of them were hunters so maybe there's hope? Anyone know these guys and what we might expect from them?

Beaulieu, the animal lawyer, looks to be a potential problem. Below is from the DU Animal Law website: Formally launched in 2021, the DU Animal Law Program is founded on a commitment to three ideals. First, the law does not adequately protect the lives, interests, and needs of animals. Despite...

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Agree on getting the elk tag. Where else can you buy a NR deer tag plus an elk tag for $233? Good luck.

What if all 12 of those tags were turned in by adults? Would only adults eligible to apply?

I hope your son has a great hunt - I really do and I don't blame you both for being excited. But there's no way NR's should get equal to better odds than residents. You can spin it anyway you want but it doesn't add up. No need to make returning tags easier. The problem isn't that the tags are...

Could this be done if they brought back random populating of the hunt codes versus the Wednesday cluster and log jam?

I don't know why. It would be easy to do for the Secondary but Re-issues would require another method.

I should have been more specific. Where I think this is broken is not having some kind of resident preference in the Secondary Draw and also the Re-issues to come. When I try to justify why a NR youth should have equal preference with Res youth and total preference over Res adults, I can't come...

Choice 1 success rates for elk: NR Youth 60%., CO youth 57%, CO Adults 21%. I think it's time to start making some noise with commissioners before next week's meeting.

Are you guys residents or non-residents? Do you plan to do a scouting trip prior to the hunt?

Congrats. How many tags were available for the hunt code you drew?

What's the story on the "animal board" on this? Thanks.

July 7 - back cover of regs book.

Now there’s some interesting stuff to ponder.

Yup supply and demand is the issue at heart. It's not the system but just too much demand for the primo tags. If you increase the amount of tags to allow more people to draw, then you kill too many top end and not-so-top-end animals and it's not long before the unit isn't what it used to be...

What is the problem with point creep?

My question is not about Colorado's corrupt and crappy point system at all it's about whether point creep is a problem.

Why are so many people, including CPW commissioners, concerned about doing something about point creep? Seems to me if you want to hunt, you study the draw stats for the past few years, pick a decent unit that takes a few less points than what you have, apply and get drawn. Granted it may not be...

How do you make it fair when different guys have different amounts of points?

The 6 tags in the secondary draw would be either unpaid or surrendered tags that were drawn. You must not have had any preference points because 14% of the resident applicants drew with no points. Last year 5 tags from that hunt code made it to the secondary draw and 11 kids applied so you'd...

If you're talking in the primary draw, I drew a 3rd choice tag since the secondary draw came about. Lots of youth drawing 2nd-3rd choice in the secondary draw.

I think the majority of adults didn't have a problem with youth preference in the old leftover draw. CPW screwed this up when they decided to put the surrender period tags into what they now call the secondary draw. It would be an easy fix to go back to the leftover draw with youth priority and...

You serious, Clark?

I felt compelled to go through an exercise in due diligence. I made a list of all the 2023 Secondary Draw tags I'd like to apply for along with how many tags are in each of these hunt codes. It's a long list. I then went to the 2022 Secondary Draw Recap to see how many kids applied for each of...

Things are finally swinging in the right direction for Colorado residents. Progress has been made with the Res/NR license allocation although 75/25 is still not where is should be. Also discussions are now underway to address overcrowding in OTC elk units. Two remaining topics that I feel need...

Yeah, pretty sure there was a 61 deer tag and multiple Gunny Basin buck tags.

You are correct on no 76 tag last year - must have been later in the re-issue.

The one The same one that guy turned in last year so one of his kids could get it. The surrender period and the youth preference in the Secondary Draw makes for quite the friends and family scheme. The kids get primo tags and dad gets his money back and keeps his points only to do it again next...

That's all they do for youth? How about reduced fee licenses, antlerless license preference in the draws, being allowed to convert their unfilled antlerless deer and elk and either-sex elk tags to antlerless licenses to be used in any remaining open season. Seems like some solid perks to me.