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    Caliber Thoughts

    Something that hits hard at 600 yards is not going to be a light recoiling gun for your wife and kid. Pick what is most important to you and go from there. With a good brake there are some great cartridges that will perform at long range and still be manageable for smaller shooters though. I...
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    Wasatch thoughts

    Harvest age objectives are a bad way to manage elk herds. They only tell you the age of elk that were harvested (by definition), which is totally irrelevant. A 300" bull may be 4 years old or he may be 12. Some hunters settle for smaller bulls for whatever reason (its their choice), but that...
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    GMC 4x4 Forum

    It sorta depends on what kind of truck it is. I use Diesel Place for my truck questions, which is a GM specific forum, but it's obviously geared toward the HD trucks with diesel engines. They have a lot of suspension, steering, chassis etc. type threads which would apply to HD gas trucks...
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    Kids these days

    I run my dog off leash over there twice a day, every day. I have been there literally thousands of times and was approached by animal control only once. He buggered right off when I started quoting the laws to him. This is not actually in the city of Salt Lake but one of the other...
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    MonsterMuleys March Madness bracket

    Don't worry, boys. Only 1 in 12,000 brackets are still intact now that day 1 is in the books. Its doubtful any of them will make it through today.
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    Kids these days

    Close, I'm in Salt Lake City. I did some looking into the possible charges against the boys. Unless they were knowingly shooting at or toward people it looks like they're only facing misdemeanor charges. Hopefully this experience knocks some sense into them (and their parents).
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    Kids these days

    Yesterday while running my dog at the local park I heard what sounded like a gunshot. Then another one a minute later. I couldn't be sure it was a gunshot but a couple of minutes later I saw a young man walking out of the wooded area. Should've called the cops but I didn't. This morning I...
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    Best 1X scope

    Pretty sure that's the same one they used to sell. I bet they just ordered more from their manufacturer. The reticle subtends a whopping 2.5 MOA which makes it pretty crappy past 100 yards.
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    MonsterMuleys March Madness bracket

    Interesting fact about your odds of picking a perfect bracket: If you assume each pick has a 70% probability of being correct then your odds are less than 1 in 5 Billion. Each year there are between 16 and 20 million entries on ESPN, so we would expect a perfect bracket about once every 300...
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    Waiting period actually 6 yrs?

    I actually think Utah's system is the worst around. In life there are many situations where the demand for something exceeds the supply. Concert tickets, raffle items, food, fuel, etc. There are 3 main systems of distributing such high-demand items. First is a random drawing. Second is...
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    Which Red Dot for Utah???

    I'm looking at a nice -4x scope right now. It's easy to see the target but everything is backwards and upside down.
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    Which Red Dot for Utah???

    Here is the wording from back in the old days, when magnifying scopes were not allowed: "must have open sights, peep sights or a fixed non-magnifying 1x scope;" I think they added the red dot verbiage because in general electronic scopes are not allowed. Only illuminated reticles. I don't...
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    Youth Rifle Suggestions

    The last youth rifle I bought was a 20" 7mm-08, Remington Model Seven. I personally don't like skinny bullets for deer, and the 7mm caliber gives you better efficiency from a short barrel. Shoot the 120 grain bullets for low recoil. The Model Seven also has a shorter forend, shorter length of...
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    Waiting period actually 6 yrs?

    I think you should get credit for time served. It really is quite unfair that the 5-year waiting period applies to all that draw, regardless of how many points it took each individual. For example, if a certain elk tag takes 15 points for a bonus tag, then those bonus tag recipients had a 15...
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    HOW MANY TEMPLE'S YOU BEEN IN???

    Back in my early 20's I got invited to go work on the St. Paul, Minnesota temple doing finish carpentry. I was young and foolish back then so I told the contractor no thanks. I really wish I would have taken that opportunity. I've only been to about 5 open houses and worked at 1 temple. I...
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    7mm-08 thoughts

    I love the 7-08. Its one of the most balanced and efficient cartridges ever designed, kind of like the 223 Remington, 30-06, and 338 Win Mag. Pound for pound its the best 7mm you can get.
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    Hole in the horn

    Back when the Henry Mtns was still a general hunt I was there with a friend of mine. I saw a decent 3x3 moving toward a little saddle, so I ran ahead for a better look. I shot him on the run at about 100 yards, hitting him a little far back. My buddy had caught up to me and said, "I'll help...
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    Expo Results

    Where do they publish the list of people who would have drawn these tags if the expo didn't interfere? 🤣
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    Did you attend the Expo? (Poll)

    I live 15 minutes away and I didn't go, for the same reason as Zim stated.
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    Western Hunt Expo. What is really going on?

    Elkfromabove, your hard work is very much appreciated. I was involved with UWC when it was originally formed, although not as a board member. I attended a lot of meetings, made phone calls, did research, donated money, and generally put forth a considerable effort to affect some kind of...
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    Western Hunt Expo. What is really going on?

    I ran across an old spreadsheet I had put together in 2012. It compared the number of conservation permits given out that year to the number allowed by state law. There were a total of 33 illegal tags given out.
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    Utah deer draw

    It depends on the unit and if you're a resident or nonresident. There are a bunch of archery hunts you can draw with 0 points.
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    Western Hunt Expo. What is really going on?

    I'm not your secretary so I'll pass on writing you up a full report. My opinions are based on things I've heard and seen over a number of years but I can assure you it is not speculation. I'm talking about firsthand conversations and public documents from SFW, the DWR, RMEF, and the governor's...
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    Wanted 270WSM Brass

    Can you give more details on what exactly you're looking for? Just some cheap brass, a particular brand, would loaded ammo work? How many you need? I have a variety of stuff laying around but nothing too fancy or any large quantities. I have several boxes of Federal ammo, a bit of nickel...
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    Western Hunt Expo. What is really going on?

    Its pretty clear there are more people involved in the corruption than just SFW and MDF. I'm sure you remember when RMEF put in a bid to host the expo and the DWR broke their own administrative rules in order to make sure the expo stayed with SFW. If the DWR was an unbiased, neutral...
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    Western Hunt Expo. What is really going on?

    The donors are the people applying for the tags. Each application costs $5 and the "conservation" organizations keep $3.50 of that. They have to use the other $1.50 for wildlife conservation, but even that is largely at their discretion and another topic entirely. So in order to have a chance...
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    Western Hunt Expo. What is really going on?

    This is a very good way to put it. We all have our individual biases that make us prioritize things differently. I personally would rather not support the organizations that use fraud, deceit, and bribery to further their own agendas (at the expense of the general public). That is my priority...
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    Western Hunt Expo. What is really going on?

    Dead horses generally don't defraud the public and bribe elected officials. At least the ones I've interviewed did not exhibit this behavior.
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    Points are Points

    I like the idea of combining everything. I think its absurd that you can get a general season hunting permit and accrue a bonus point during the same year. Waiting in 2 lines for the same species. One simple change they could make, which would solve much of the problem, would be to create a...
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    Nice Utah buck from the '60s

    According to the B&C website this Ashton buck is the #6 non-typical ever taken in Utah. And of those 5 bucks that are bigger, 4 of them were taken prior to 1961 when this buck was killed. That means only 1 buck has beaten this monster in the last 60+ years.
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    What Powerbelt

    I've only shot 1 deer with a Powerbelt. It was a 45 cal bullet on a muley at about 75 yards. The bullet exploded on the front shoulder and did not enter the vitals. There was a softball-sized chunk of meat missing from his shoulder. It did knock him down long enough for me to get another...
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    The Winter That Wasn't?

    I find it interesting that most of the Snotel sites I've looked at have their peak snow-water equivalent in mid to late April. We still have 3 months of winter left in the mountains.
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    Ground Shrinkage or Gain - Pack Giveaway

    My favorite story about ground growth comes from my "Uncle" Barlow Pace. Interestingly, he is related to me through the same line as my Uncle Melvin Ashton, who killed that giant 284" buck I posted about recently. I believe Barlow's story took place back in the 60s or 70s. Barlow had an elk...
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    300 PRC vs 7 PRC

    7mm PRC vs 300 PRC is the same comparison as 7mm Rem Mag vs 300 Win Mag. The PRC's are just modern case geometry and slightly more capacity. The 300 will outrun the 7mm quite easily at any distance unless you handicap it with a low BC bullet. In my opinion a 7mm is the perfect deer caliber...
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    Rifle actions

    For a wood stocked factory gun I would consider an older "tang safety" Ruger M77. They have a different style of action that you may like, and they are not hard to find on the used market. If you want new I'l look at Tikka, Sako, or the one that currently interests me the most....the new CZ...
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    Do you think this is true?

    The odds of finding 9 deer in a single geographical region are quite low. So I call BS. I went on a few night dives many years ago near San Diego. The sea lions would sometimes come in and watch your dive light, and catch the fish that were stunned by the light. So predatory animals do use...
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    Rifle Tech???

    Speaking for Utah I don't see any reason why they'd restrict rifle technology. Their top priority is to keep the demand/value of LE rifle permits as high as possible. People are then more likely to hire guides, pay $$ to hunt private ranches, and spend $$$ on the auction tags. If they were to...
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    Help needed with Long range rifle scope for hunting?

    I'll just make a quick recommendation on your magnification. Look for something that goes down to 3 or 4 and up to 15 or 18 max. I have some 5.5-22x and 6-24x scopes and don't like them at all for hunting. The 24x is nice for shooting paper but useless for hunting. Too little field of view...
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    WE PUT A MAN ON THE MOON IN 1969 BUT.....................???

    Once you calculate how high a man can actually jump on the moon you will have much better insight into this topic.
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    WE PUT A MAN ON THE MOON IN 1969 BUT.....................???

    I saw the one where they asked him to swear on the Bible he landed on the moon and he refused.
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