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The word I got..."Arizona Strip deer just killed on opening day auction tag holder" GBA

Pete, does this include Broad head weight? The reason I ask is that most folks that are unsuccessful in terms of penetration with wide cutting mechanical BH's is it is due to a light arrow set up with little FOC. Even 400 grains total weight with BH is on the light side for mechnicals from what...

Pete, If you don't mind my asking what is your total arrow weight and percentage FOC? Thanks GBA

I don't know how his hunt went but I do know he didn't have great Az sunshine for most of his hunt. We had lots of hard rains, socked in fog and depending on elevation lots of snow too. I am curious how his hunt went also. GBA

Another vote for 300 FMJ's. I'd use Firenocks 150 grain stainless steel half outs inserts to get my desired FOC and added weight for brown bear. It's a great set up for Elk as well. GBA

I bought a pair of Helly Hanson Impertech this year and I stay very dry in a hard rain storm. They are close to your range, about $160.00 to $180.00 dollars but are great strong and quiet rain gear. If you plan to hike in them I wouldn't recommend it, they get hot and will make you sweat. But I...

Im hearing a lot of great reviews on the Nose Jammer products. It comes in a kit with body wash, detergent, spray and deodorant and is made from concentrated natural organic compounds. Way cheaper than scent lock clothing. I'm going to try this stuff out but mostly for tree stand hunting. You...

Any guide or outfitter that told me I couldn't use a piece of equipment I have total confidence in be it a BH choice or other wouldn't be getting my business. I shoot Killzone mechanicals, IMHO its best two blade rearward deploying design out there. Killed numerous animals with it and all had...

If you would like to stay with a mechanical head NAP now makes a Killzone low KE head that I think would fit the bill. With a set up like Throphyhunters FMJ 340 arrow and weight combined with the low KE Killzone it ought to be a really good set up for you. Just a thought. GBA

Another vote for FMJ's. I have shot 340 FMJs for years. I have never had one bend as is mentioned here. I've had them break/snap off in animals and had the end next to the BH or FP mushroom or break at the weak spot from the hit inserts, but have never had them bend. As mentioned, they are a...

Hey Jason, you are spot on about the penetration factor. I couldn't agree with you more. However I prefer to use a wide cutting blade and have complete pass through as well specifically on elk. A pass through is a pass through and after all IMO that's what we should want in any set up. Let me...

Maybe because everyone of them shoot in fair weather or indoors? Maybe because they don't hunt and have to put on extra clothing?? Maybe because they haven't figured out that there is a wall at the bow draw stop so they don't have to go bone on bone, Maybe to increase confidence, or maybe its...

I will start out by saying shoot what you hve the most confidence in be it fixed or mechnical. With that said I have killed 8 elk, all with mechnical heads. My choice of head is the Killzone. With any mechnical on elk I would recomend you shoot a total of 550 grain arrows. GBA

Robb, my thoughts and prayers go out to you and Steve and your wives. I'm following this thread and others on another site as my wife and I are currently going through the same thing as well, however we are behind your process. Already I/we have learned a bunch from what others before us that...

Tune up! GBA

4bigbucks, I used 340 FMJ?s and both the tubed arrows and non tubed arrows with a 100 grain brass insert up front are at 550 grains with the 100 grain FP. The tubes were glued in within a 1/4 inch both front and back to keep them from moving inside. I did not do the math to figure out percent...

Destoryer350, thanks man! Now I gotta clean the coffee off of my keyboard! Thas some funny $hit right there! LOL GBA

Lucaar, I respectfully disagree with you on the bone on bone elbow theory. That may have been true years ago prior to solid draw stops but it isn't anymore. And a slightly bent elbow is the way to go. Once the draw stop is hit and the anchor point set every time bone on bone is not in the...

I tested it as I stated and saw no difference in penetration. I suggest if you disagree that you try the same thing. I wanted to know for myself and I'm convinced it made no difference. My thoughts on it is the arrow is pushing from the shaft as much as it pulling from the front. My thoughts on...

31 incher, please go back and read my post. I didn't say a high FOC wouldn't aid in penetration. I said the same size arrows with the same weight will not out penetrate the other just because a weight is way up front or the total weight of an arrow all the way through are the same. Take any...

31incher, I have done a LOT of looking into FOC and the studies done behind it and these are the conclusions I have come to. If you have two arrows with the same diameter, and the spine is stiff enough in relationship to FOC or normal shaft and with an overall weight of say 470 grains. One has...

Exhaust fuild?? Splain please. whatever it is if is wasnt diesel hope he didnt fire the truck up. Tow it and drop the tank! GBA

I just bought my grandson (11 years old) the 2013 Diamond Infinite Edge 6 months ago with the ready to hunt package for $349.00 at Bass Pro Shop. They come in 3 colors as well, camo, black ops and pink camo. Draw length adjust 17 inches out to 30 inches, drawn weight is 5 pounds out to 70...

31incher, actually I got your point completely and I never should have mentioned anything about speed. I was just making sure it was understood that speed wasnt a concideration. I do understand what your saying about FOC. Although I admit I dont completly undestand why you can get deeoper...

31incher, thanks for your input. Now I understand what you mean by your thoughts on FOC with a lighter arrow. I am looking for a little FOC but I am more concerned with over all arrow weight. I want the penetration momentum a heavier set up can give me. I am not concerned about speed. But back...

Bow is 67lbs 28" draw, I have 28.5" 340FMJ's, dropping from 125 grain BH'ds down to 100 grain BH'ds and adding 75 grain brass HIT with a carbon colar. Im currently at 477 and will boost to about 528 grains. I should be spined plenty stiff yet. Curios, why do you believe FMJ's are the worst to...

Ive been in the west hunting for over 25 years. I dont go out and buy expensive camo. Most any pattern will work so long as it breaks up your outline. Play the wind and you will be fine. I also tree stand hunt so those opertunities are there in the west also. IMO nothing beats spot and stalk...

The problem with FMJ HIT insert technology is the BH sits against the shaft unless you use the carbon collars which is what I will be going to now. Footing is a way of making the end of the arrow stronger so that it will not damage the arrow shaft where the BH butts up against it. But as I found...

Have any of you ever footed your arrows? I can see a great benefit to FMJ with the HIT inserts by strengthening the business end of the arrow. It could give a little more FOC as well. It is suggested to install footings anywhere from an inch and a half to 2 inches long. Some are even double...

Thats great news to me! I have thier sight too and had a couple of close calls banging the site housing. 25 feet!! man you like nose bleed stands! ha ha ha LOL Thanks for shareing that info! GBA

I dont see why it wouldnt work. it should still pick up any motion going by the window. Curious, what you trying to catch? Cars being broke into or something else? GBA

I have a tight spot quiver on my Invasion and love it too. Best quiver out there as far as I am concerned. It's very durable, no vibration at the shot and as most have said, it awesome to be able to adjust the grip on the arrows. With that said if you have the dove tail set up to suck the...

Hhmm, sounds like a case for NICKMAN, the master at sticking it to the man?er girl in this case. Ha ha ha LOL GBA

Alpine, thanks for the observation and input. I can see how you might think the draw is long. However because he grabbed my release just to take the picture it appears to long a draw. I had him at full draw and then walk backwards to get him between the trees to see the bow a little better so...

Great advice fatrooster, probably spot on. However couldn't it be said that by buying gear for our purposes of hunting indirectly makes REI a hunting advocate? If they aren't openly saying one way or the other it seems to me they might just be doing that for business purposes to keep both sides...

I just bought my grandson (11 years old) the 2013 Diamond Infinite Edge two weeks ago with the ready to hunt package for $349.00 at Bass Pro Shop. They come in 3 colors as well, camo, black ops and pink camo. Draw length adjust 17 inches out to 30 inches, drawn weight is 5 pounds out to 70...

> >Last year rage came out with >an all new 2 1/4 >inch 2 blade broad head >and they redesigned the 2" >2 blade adding a chisel >tip and adding a new >blade retentioner (shock collar) that >works phenomenal. This year they've >came out with the new >hypodermic that has a solid...

>what happens if you whack a >couple here and there? Might depend on how fast you can turn them into ALPO ha ha ha LOL GBA

>Why? I certainly wouldn't risk >it. I'm not anti >mechanical, but shooting one through >screen seems like a bad >idea to me. I only shoot mechnicals but I totally agree with Nate, I would never shoot any of them through a screen or mesh of anykind. I doubt I would shoot a fixed blade...

I honestly have not looked at any of the new Rages yet. It appears they now have a new blade retention holding them closed rather than the o-ring friction against little blade cut or flat. Can anyone enlighten us on that? Ulmer Edge just doesn't have enough front end penetration before the...