“The gate will remain closed”

[BeanMan]

The 10th circuit court of appeals has ruled that High Lonesome Ranch may keep 90,000 acres of public land locked up until the appeal process has run it’s course. i kind of figure this would happen, let’s hope they lose the appeal but for now the road and land remain closed to us for an undetermined time period.

 

[tailchasers]

Ugh. Can't stand landowners like this which are becoming increasingly more common in our part of the world. However I do subscribe to the OnX type mentality where if my GPS says it's public and the gate is closed and I know there are no travel restrictions like Areas of Critical Environmental Concern then the alternate key is coming out along with a call to the local Conservation Office.

 

[coloradoman]

I figured
Was up there a couple weeks ago and they had someone camped at the gate threatening people.
Bean man we should go up there and call coyotes

 

[coloradoman]

They can’t keep us off of the BLM land even if the gate is locked!
Hell we can use the gate as a gun rest!!

 

[Bluehair]

Ugh. Can't stand landowners like this which are becoming increasingly more common in our part of the world. However I do subscribe to the OnX type mentality where if my GPS says it's public and the gate is closed and I know there are no travel restrictions like Areas of Critical Environmental Concern then the alternate key is coming out along with a call to the local Conservation Office.

Don’t trust Onx - they have a problem uploading deed restrictions into their magic map maker. The PRIVATE road thru my PRIVATE property is indicated as being public. Wrong.

Its not normally a problem, but this year during hunting season I stopped someone who had driven past 5 no trespassing signs to tell me Onx said it was ok. I reminded them that the local sheriff was enthusiastic about writing trespassing tickets during hunting season.

I don’t think you should be able to block historic access to public lands. Our county is suing the feds over this very thing......not always private landowners.

 

[Homer]

Don’t trust Onx - they have a problem uploading deed restrictions into their magic map maker. The PRIVATE road thru my PRIVATE property is indicated as being public. Wrong.

Its not normally a problem, but this year during hunting season I stopped someone who had driven past 5 no trespassing signs to tell me Onx said it was ok. I reminded them that the local sheriff was enthusiastic about writing trespassing tickets during hunting season.

I don’t think you should be able to block historic access to public lands. Our county is suing the feds over this very thing......not always private landowners.

Too bad your County didn’t get that lawsuit settled up before 1/20/21.....

 

[coloradoman]

Don’t trust Onx - they have a problem uploading deed restrictions into their magic map maker. The PRIVATE road thru my PRIVATE property is indicated as being public. Wrong.

Its not normally a problem, but this year during hunting season I stopped someone who had driven past 5 no trespassing signs to tell me Onx said it was ok. I reminded them that the local sheriff was enthusiastic about writing trespassing tickets during hunting season.

I don’t think you should be able to block historic access to public lands. Our county is suing the feds over this very thing......not always private landowners.

You might dig into that deeper

 

[coloradoman]

Is it a county road like the one we are talking about?

 

[oilcan]

I figured
Was up there a couple weeks ago and they had someone camped at the gate threatening people.
Bean man we should go up there and call coyotes

How did the Burned area look ?
Has there been much moisture up there this winter ?

 

[coloradoman]

All the elk are hanging out in the west side of kimball creek on BLM in the burn right now
The problem is a 1/4 mile strip of private in the bottom that kept us from getting to them without walking 7 miles

 

[LIK2HNT]

Thanks for keeping us informed.
Bill

 

[Bluehair]

You might dig into that deeper

Nope, not a county road. How much deeper do you have to go than buying the land and building the road?

There are a couple of other errors I know of right here in my backyard. Not saying thats the case up there, just pointing out that Onx is wrong sometimes.

 

[Bluehair]

Too bad your County didn’t get that lawsuit settled up before 1/20/21.....

Yup. I could say that my commissioners were distracted while fighting the COVID rules but that would be undersimplifying things.

 

[WapitiBob]

OnX doesn't mark roads as public or private.

 

[coloradoman]

Nope, not a county road. How much deeper do you have to go than buying the land and building the road?

There are a couple of other errors I know of right here in my backyard. Not saying thats the case up there, just pointing out that Onx is wrong sometimes.

I get it just asking and wondering

 

[Bluehair]

OnX doesn't mark roads as public or private.

That’s a good point. I should clarify that they added an overlay that now shows my road where it didn’t before.

They do however show roads where there are none (Gated). They even have FS numbers on a couple I know of.

I should say that I like Onx. Private land boundaries are VERY accurate.

 

[BeanMan]

All the elk are hanging out in the west side of kimball creek on BLM in the burn right now
The problem is a 1/4 mile strip of private in the bottom that kept us from getting to them without walking 7 miles

We found some between Kimball creek and Dry Creek on public the last day of the season. Some road hunters went out of their way to run them off for us.

 

[BeanMan]

How did the Burned area look ?
Has there been much moisture up there this winter ?

There is very little moisture, last week you could sweep the 4” of snow aside with your boot and hit dust.

 

[oilcan]

There is very little moisture, last week you could sweep the 4” of snow aside with your boot and hit dust.

That’s terrible
When I was there mid November I talked to the rancher I know and he said he had no idea if/when they would reseed. Have you guys heard anything regarding that ?

 

[Ultimag]

All the elk are hanging out in the west side of kimball creek on BLM in the burn right now
The problem is a 1/4 mile strip of private in the bottom that kept us from getting to them without walking 7 miles

So there,is,a way to access,them, it just requires,you to hike farther then you want to
??

 

[coloradoman]

For a cow yes

 

[Joe2Kool]

The 10th circuit court of appeals has ruled that High Lonesome Ranch may keep 90,000 acres of public land locked up until the appeal process has run it’s course. i kind of figure this would happen, let’s hope they lose the appeal but for now the road and land remain closed to us for an undetermined time period.

I don't have any info other than what I've read on here, and the links provided, but this stinks for those in the area. 90,000 acres? What is the HLR's justification?

 

[elks96]

I don't have any info other than what I've read on here, and the links provided, but this stinks for those in the area. 90,000 acres? What is the HLR's justification?

Man I wonder if HLR ends up losing this fight if we can’t see them over the issue? Seems likely that they are not afraid at all.

 

[bullbuster]

Nope, not a county road. How much deeper do you have to go than buying the land and building the road?

There are a couple of other errors I know of right here in my backyard. Not saying thats the case up there, just pointing out that Onx is wrong sometimes.

I have seen some errors on their maps in colorado in unit 22. I have also seen in Utah some trails and stuff not be even close on the map compared to where they actually lay. It's pretty dependable but not bullet proof for sure!