Archery elk hunters should get to hunt the rut. But it should be primitive archery. No compounds. How many guys would gladly drop the technology to hunt the rut. In that regard the smokepole season should go back to Nov., but again to hunt the deer rut you give up the inlines, sabots, optics. I would do this in a heart beat! For those who want more technology, you give up the best times. Compound bows get pre rut or post rut. In lines get sandwiched between gun seasons, not much difference between the two inside of 250 yrds. The traditional seasons(bow and smokepole) get 10 days. The compound and inlines get a week, the rifle gets 5 days. Oh yeah, CWMU's can give up their 4 month season. They should be able to get by on 3 months, if not they can take back their public tags and we can take back our guaranteed tags. Finally, all DWR trucks get to have a GPS. Not because they get lost, but to show how much time they spend on the mountain because only blind sideshow clown honestly thinks that a month of solid deer hunting is good for our herds. Even if all they do is take data off of the numbers killed on the highway, they should know that the deer are in trouble, and if their are fewer road kills, they should see the mountains!!!!