i already have access through a farmer, and yes poachers are abound up there, the elk are nearly invisible as they walk in the very bottom of the canyon. we have horn hunted very har$d where i have access, often times going from top to bottom a few times in a day. last year i went out there opening day of deer season and 4 trucks with farmboys were parked next to my access and i heard a shot on the canyon edge. i took pictures of there liscense plates but never pursued it although i should have. you could tell when i pulled up that something shady was going on. the main thing that bothers me about being in the bottom of the canyon are the black bears, its such a confined place and the walls so steep that theres no escape, there would be a showdown for sure if you startled one. i just make sure i always have my pistol handy when dropping in there. ive had a little $hithead bear messing with my trail cam every time i reset it. the property i have permission on has a couple of absolute giant whitetail, 160ish in july, i cant imagine what theyre lookin like right now.