this is for '2pointer'..i promise you....this will be the last time i have to 'explain' my pictures....first off, i use a 400mm lens on my camera...second, the weather here has been bad for a while, and i was feeding these bulls. when they saw me coming, they headed for the 'feed bucket'...they were not running or even walking away from me..as a matter of fact,they got to the 'feed bucket' first...see the last 2 pictures??? they were there waiting for me.. thirdly. '2pointer', this is the second time you have accused me of harassing these bulls. when you stated before, " i can tell by looking at the pics that you were close enough to make them run", which was totally false, and, i explained it... your reply was "fantastic"...great manners there...finally, i will say to you, '2pointer', i spend a minimum of 5 days a week (usually 7) with these 'fellows' and their 'friends'. i 'hunt' their sheds till it gets to hot and dry to be there..the rest of the year, i just 'hang' with them..if you think for one minute i would be out there 'pushing' or harassing them, again, you are 'way off base'...you sound like a fella whom spends all day behind a desk, or in a class room, then can't wait to get home and tell folks how they are 'doing it all wrong'...there are many more on here that spend their time making a living behind a desk and do not have the opportunities to 'get out' as i do...that's why i 'do what i do'...tell ya what, '2pointer'...next time you see a post from me....don't even 'click' on it, cuz i guarantee ya, it will have pics of elk in it. whew...