Coconino chaos

[AZ8]

Regardless on what side of the fence you're on, recreation on the Coconino NF is about to change forever.

Be prepared and familiarize yourself with the maps! Remember, ignorance of the law is no defense!


http://azdailysun.com/news/local/fo...cle_27c07208-0800-5d38-affc-9268d74e332e.html

 

[brian390]

I think that this is going too far. Not being able to camp more than 30 feet off a roadway and not posting closed roads with signs. They give their reasons, but they're not good enough for me.

 

[mike111]

When can we buy the new maps? I have a bad feeling they closed way too many roads...

 

[AZ8]

Not sure where these maps will be. I assume in all District offices.

Here's the map for approved off road elk retrevial. Lots of areas off limits now.

http://www.redrockcountry.org/about-us/tmr/tmr-home/ROD_MBGR_Alt3_11x17.pdf

 

[azoutback]

Sorry to say, but its just another step towards wolves, and trying to stop hunting. I am not opposed to closing some of the atv trails and some of the roads but camping within 30 feet of the road? Wont it be nice eating dust while camping or hunting? They are stealing our freedoms one by one...

 

[AZ8]

I think the 30 foot rule is absolutely stupid. I understand their intentions, but why such a silly distance? My garage is longer that!! What if you have a 32' trailer? Seriously! Your only option will be to parallel park. There will be many spots that just won't allow that due to terrain, vegatation or other campers. Just silly. I understand their argument, but this rule is a bit on the extreme side and flat out anal!

A 100' foot rule would have been a better compromise.

 

[azoutback]

Looks like it is 300' ?http://www.redrockcountry.org/about-us/tmr/tmr-home/ROD_Alt3_BW.pdf

 

[AZ8]

Actually, roughly 600 miles of designated roads will fall under the 300', only about 20% of all open roads in the Coconino. The remaining open roads will be 30'.

Read page 13 of the plan.



http://www.redrockcountry.org/about-us/tmr/tmr-home/20110830CoconinoTMRRecordOfDecisionSIGNED.pdf

 

[AZ8]

In other words....... only 43,313 acres will fall under the 300' rule. The rest will be enforced with the 30' rule.

To put that in perspective, the Coconino is 1.8 million acres!

 

[mike111]

There needs to be a better system in place for sportsman to have a say in what rules are passed before they slam it down our throats! From the national monument proposal, to a gruop trying to steal our tags, to road closures, wolves and camping limits!! I know 90% of us don't want any of that and there's always someone trying to sneak around and get something passed through. We need to continue sending emails and fighting for our freedom, but we also need a structured program in place that shows how many of us don't like these changes. Most of all we need to stop these lunatics before there's nothing left for the future of hunting!!!