GWM, 6-8 people fit comfortably in the 14 ft. sidewall tipi. for 4 guys i recommend a 12 ft. tipi. all of my tents come with a stovejack with 3,4,or 5 inch hole depending on the diameter of the stovepipe. i use these tents all the time and they are so lightweight and reliable i will never pack in a heavy canvas tent again. elkantler75