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If you are a NM big-game hunter and have not read RabidRattleSnake?s thread Dedicated Hunter Program for NM? Check it out.
http://www.monstermuleys.info/dcforum/DCForumID34/897.html
I've been thinking a lot about this since Rabid started this thread. I also read the thread someone started about why he thinks the (Utah) DHP should be done away with, a lot of interesting discussion there.
The notion of a DSP is starting to grow on me. I think it could be a way to address some of the common gripes of MM members (because we are probably a pretty representative sample of the group who would likely be in a DSP), Keep NM?s draw system pure and equal for ALL of it's hunters, and provide a way for hunters to contribute to making more and better mule deer.
Many of you guys already know that I'm one of the professional ?Idiots that could screw up a wet dream?. Whether or not you share that view, Here?s a chance for everyone to play a little armchair quarterback in the game-plan phase. Let's pretend it falls to us "Dedicated NM Sportsmen" to invent how a DSP would work. I'd like to hear some ideas from you guys on it.
I think the very first thing for us to do is to recognize that a DSP in NM would be much different than the way Utah does it. For one- NM is WAY more of a "directed" management (or micromanaged) system. As an example, you can forget about the DSP allowing for someone to hunt all three hunts (Bow/Muzzy/rifle), it would require legislative changes to the laws and there are about 5 other big reasons why it would not/could not fly. There are other specifics of the Utah system that could not fly in NM - What I'm getting at is; pretend you never heard of Utah?s system- think out of the box. Let's start from scratch.
First: WHAT should the system accomplish? (can't skip to the ?how? without the ?what?) ???.Why?
1. improved opportunity for the ?Dedicated Sportsman?? (bonus points/draw odds/guaranteed tags? Are Ded Hunters guaranteed the ?benefit?, or just earn an improved chance?
2. provide ?special? opportunity for the DS? Special units, special rut hunts
3. habitat improvement projects??
4. _________________???????________________________________
5. _________________???????________________________________
For ?WHOm? should this be accomplished? Who is a dedicated sportsman?
1. exclusivity- can't be everyone? more sacrifice=less participants=larger benefit How many? How do you pick? How do you earn?
2. what sacrifice= volunteer time, habitat projects? Money$ (I'd HATE it to go to the highest bidder- money should not exclude anyone from participating- IMO)
3. __________???????????________________________________
4. __________???????????________________________________
Now- HOW do you make that happen- the what's and the who's (within NM?s current draw system, and laws)?
_______________________________________________________________
_______________________________________________________________
_______________________________________________________________
__________________________________________________
What are the negative impacts going to be?? (impact to the rest of NM hunters, the resource, the sport of hunting in general-- see the article below) Does it change management objectives- would it mean more hunters/higher success ratios (fewer bucks)/fewer tags/decreased draw odds/higher prices?
http://www.monstermuleys.info/dcforum/DCForumID5/13008.html
Personally, I'd like to see some way to make it work with our ?Open Gate? Program (the HMAS- Habitat Management and Access Stamp money for leasing private land hunting opportunity.) I-don't-know how- NMDGF with lease money in hand and some bad-ass elk/deer ranches and some trusted ?dedicated? hunters willing to put in some elbow grease should be able to mix together somehow????
I'd also like to see some way to piggyback a ?Dedicated Youth? Program to direct it towards more/better youth hunting opportunity- maybe father son combos- maybe
I don't know. You tell me???
http://www.monstermuleys.info/dcforum/DCForumID34/897.html
I've been thinking a lot about this since Rabid started this thread. I also read the thread someone started about why he thinks the (Utah) DHP should be done away with, a lot of interesting discussion there.
The notion of a DSP is starting to grow on me. I think it could be a way to address some of the common gripes of MM members (because we are probably a pretty representative sample of the group who would likely be in a DSP), Keep NM?s draw system pure and equal for ALL of it's hunters, and provide a way for hunters to contribute to making more and better mule deer.
Many of you guys already know that I'm one of the professional ?Idiots that could screw up a wet dream?. Whether or not you share that view, Here?s a chance for everyone to play a little armchair quarterback in the game-plan phase. Let's pretend it falls to us "Dedicated NM Sportsmen" to invent how a DSP would work. I'd like to hear some ideas from you guys on it.
I think the very first thing for us to do is to recognize that a DSP in NM would be much different than the way Utah does it. For one- NM is WAY more of a "directed" management (or micromanaged) system. As an example, you can forget about the DSP allowing for someone to hunt all three hunts (Bow/Muzzy/rifle), it would require legislative changes to the laws and there are about 5 other big reasons why it would not/could not fly. There are other specifics of the Utah system that could not fly in NM - What I'm getting at is; pretend you never heard of Utah?s system- think out of the box. Let's start from scratch.
First: WHAT should the system accomplish? (can't skip to the ?how? without the ?what?) ???.Why?
1. improved opportunity for the ?Dedicated Sportsman?? (bonus points/draw odds/guaranteed tags? Are Ded Hunters guaranteed the ?benefit?, or just earn an improved chance?
2. provide ?special? opportunity for the DS? Special units, special rut hunts
3. habitat improvement projects??
4. _________________???????________________________________
5. _________________???????________________________________
For ?WHOm? should this be accomplished? Who is a dedicated sportsman?
1. exclusivity- can't be everyone? more sacrifice=less participants=larger benefit How many? How do you pick? How do you earn?
2. what sacrifice= volunteer time, habitat projects? Money$ (I'd HATE it to go to the highest bidder- money should not exclude anyone from participating- IMO)
3. __________???????????________________________________
4. __________???????????________________________________
Now- HOW do you make that happen- the what's and the who's (within NM?s current draw system, and laws)?
_______________________________________________________________
_______________________________________________________________
_______________________________________________________________
__________________________________________________
What are the negative impacts going to be?? (impact to the rest of NM hunters, the resource, the sport of hunting in general-- see the article below) Does it change management objectives- would it mean more hunters/higher success ratios (fewer bucks)/fewer tags/decreased draw odds/higher prices?
http://www.monstermuleys.info/dcforum/DCForumID5/13008.html
Personally, I'd like to see some way to make it work with our ?Open Gate? Program (the HMAS- Habitat Management and Access Stamp money for leasing private land hunting opportunity.) I-don't-know how- NMDGF with lease money in hand and some bad-ass elk/deer ranches and some trusted ?dedicated? hunters willing to put in some elbow grease should be able to mix together somehow????
I'd also like to see some way to piggyback a ?Dedicated Youth? Program to direct it towards more/better youth hunting opportunity- maybe father son combos- maybe
I don't know. You tell me???