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Since I was bestowed my PHD in climate change by renowned Man Made Global Warming Koolaid Drinker Tmoneyshot. I have focused my studies on showing just what a hoax Man Made Global Warming realy is and how it is nothing more than a money grab and a power grab. Here is more on my Doctoral Theises. LMAO!


UN Blowback: More Than 650 International Scientists Dissent Over Man-Made Global Warming Claims

Study: Half of warming due to Sun! ?Sea Levels Fail to Rise? - Warming Fears in 'Dustbin of History'

POZNAN, Poland - The UN global warming conference currently underway in Poland is about to face a serious challenge from over 650 dissenting scientists from around the globe who are criticizing the climate claims made by the UN IPCC and former Vice President Al Gore. Set for release this week, a newly updated U.S. Senate Minority Report features the dissenting voices of over 650 international scientists, many current and former UN IPCC scientists, who have now turned against the UN. The report has added about 250 scientists (and growing) in 2008 to the over 400 scientists who spoke out in 2007. The over 650 dissenting scientists are more than 12 times the number of UN scientists (52) who authored the media hyped IPCC 2007 Summary for Policymakers.

The U.S. Senate report is the latest evidence of the growing groundswell of scientific opposition rising to challenge the UN and Gore. Full Report Set To Be Released in the Next 24 Hours ? Stay Tuned?

A hint of what the upcoming report contains:

?I am a skeptic?Global warming has become a new religion.? - Nobel Prize Winner for Physics, Ivar Giaever.

?Since I am no longer affiliated with any organization nor receiving any funding, I can speak quite frankly?.As a scientist I remain skeptical.? - Atmospheric Scientist Dr. Joanne Simpson, the first woman in the world to receive a PhD in meteorology and formerly of NASA who has authored more than 190 studies and has been called ?among the most preeminent scientists of the last 100 years.?

Warming fears are the ?worst scientific scandal in the history?When people come to know what the truth is, they will feel deceived by science and scientists.? - UN IPCC Japanese Scientist Dr. Kiminori Itoh, an award-winning PhD environmental physical chemist.

?The IPCC has actually become a closed circuit; it doesn't listen to others. It doesn't have open minds? I am really amazed that the Nobel Peace Prize has been given on scientifically incorrect conclusions by people who are not geologists,? - Indian geologist Dr. Arun D. Ahluwalia at Punjab University and a board member of the UN-supported International Year of the Planet.

?The models and forecasts of the UN IPCC "are incorrect because they only are based on mathematical models and presented results at scenarios that do not include, for example, solar activity.? - Victor Manuel Velasco Herrera, a researcher at the Institute of Geophysics of the National Autonomous University of Mexico

?It is a blatant lie put forth in the media that makes it seem there is only a fringe of scientists who don't buy into anthropogenic global warming.? - U.S Government Atmospheric Scientist Stanley B. Goldenberg of the Hurricane Research Division of NOAA.

?Even doubling or tripling the amount of carbon dioxide will virtually have little impact, as water vapour and water condensed on particles as clouds dominate the worldwide scene and always will.? ? . Geoffrey G. Duffy, a professor in the Department of Chemical and Materials Engineering of the University of Auckland, NZ.

?After reading [UN IPCC chairman] Pachauri's asinine comment [comparing skeptics to] Flat Earthers, it's hard to remain quiet.? - Climate statistician Dr. William M. Briggs, who specializes in the statistics of forecast evaluation, serves on the American Meteorological Society's Probability and Statistics Committee and is an Associate Editor of Monthly Weather Review.

?For how many years must the planet cool before we begin to understand that the planet is not warming? For how many years must cooling go on?" - Geologist Dr. David Gee the chairman of the science committee of the 2008 International Geological Congress who has authored 130 plus peer reviewed papers, and is currently at Uppsala University in Sweden.

?Gore prompted me to start delving into the science again and I quickly found myself solidly in the skeptic camp?Climate models can at best be useful for explaining climate changes after the fact.? - Meteorologist Hajo Smit of Holland, who reversed his belief in man-made warming to become a skeptic, is a former member of the Dutch UN IPCC committee.

?Many [scientists] are now searching for a way to back out quietly (from promoting warming fears), without having their professional careers ruined.? - Atmospheric physicist James A. Peden, formerly of the Space Research and Coordination Center in Pittsburgh.

?Creating an ideology pegged to carbon dioxide is a dangerous nonsense?The present alarm on climate change is an instrument of social control, a pretext for major businesses and political battle. It became an ideology, which is concerning.? - Environmental Scientist Professor Delgado Domingos of Portugal, the founder of the Numerical Weather Forecast group, has more than 150 published articles.

?CO2 emissions make absolutely no difference one way or another?.Every scientist knows this, but it doesn't pay to say so?Global warming, as a political vehicle, keeps Europeans in the driver?s seat and developing nations walking barefoot.? - Dr. Takeda Kunihiko, vice-chancellor of the Institute of Science and Technology Research at Chubu University in Japan.

?The [global warming] scaremongering has its justification in the fact that it is something that generates funds.? - Award-winning Paleontologist Dr. Eduardo Tonni, of the Committee for Scientific Research in Buenos Aires and head of the Paleontology Department at the University of La Plata. # #

In addition, the report will feature new peer-reviewed scientific studies and analyses refuting man-made warming fears and a heavy dose of inconvenient climate developments. (See Below: Study: Half of warming due to Sun! ?Sea Levels Fail to Rise? - Warming Fears in 'Dustbin of History')

The Senate Minority Report is an update of 2007?s blockbuster U.S. Senate Minority Report of over 400 dissenting scientists. See here: This new report will contain the names, quotes and analyses of literally hundreds of additional international scientists who publicly dissented from man-made climate fears in just 2008 alone. The chorus of scientific voices skeptical grow louder as a steady stream of peer-reviewed studies, analyses and real world data challenge the UN and former Vice President Al Gore's claims that the "science is settled" and there is a "consensus." The original 2007 U.S. Senate report is available here: Full Report Set To Be Released in the Next 24 Hours ? Stay Tuned?
Meanwhile, while the UN climate conference is in session here in Poznan, the bad scientific news for promoters of man-made climate alarm just keeps rolling in. Below is a very small sampling of very inconvenient developments for Gore, the United Nations, and their promoters in the mainstream media. Peer-reviewed studies, analyses, and prominent scientists continue to speak out to refute climate fears. The data presented below is just from the past week.

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Peer-reviewed study: Half of recent warming was solar! - December 10, 2008

Excerpt: In this dose of peer-reviewed skeptical climatological literature, we follow Climate Research News. The blog was intrigued by a new article in Geophysical Research Letters that was accepted on Friday, December 5th. Eichler, A., S. Olivier, K. Henderson, A. Laube, J. Beer, T. Papina, H. W. G?ggeler, and M. Schwikowski: Temperature response in the Altai region lags solar forcing - Recall that the Siberian Altai Mountains are found at the intersection of Russia, China, Mongolia, and Kazakhstan. The authors looked at 750 years worth of the local ice core, especially the oxygen isotope. They claim to have found a very strong correlation between the concentration of this isotope (i.e. temperature) on one side and the known solar activity in the epoch 1250-1850. Their data seem to be precise enough to determine the lag, about 10-30 years. It takes some time for the climate to respond to the solar changes. It seems that they also have data to claim that the correlation gets less precise after 1850. They attribute the deviation to CO2 and by comparing the magnitude of the forcings, they conclude that "Our results are in agreement with studies based on NH temperature reconstructions [Scafetta et al., 2007] revealing that only up to approximately 50% of the observed global warming in the last 100 years can be explained by the Sun." Well, the word "only" is somewhat cute in comparison with the "mainstream" fashionable ideology. The IPCC said that they saw a 90% probability that "most" of the recent warming was man-made. The present paper would reduce this figure, 90%, to less than 50% because the Sun itself is responsible for 1/2 of the warming and not the whole 50% of the warming could have been caused by CO2 because there are other effects, too. Note that if 0.3 ?C or 0.4 ?C of warming in the 20th century was due to the increasing CO2 levels, the climate sensitivity is decisively smaller than 1 ?C. At any rate, the expected 21st century warming due to CO2 would be another 0.3-0.4 ?C, and this time, if the solar activity contributes with the opposite sign, these two effects could cancel. Even if you try to stretch these numbers a little bit - but not unrealistically - you have to become sure that the participants of the Poznan conference are lunatics.

Flashback: New scientific analysis shows Sun ?could account for as much as 69% of the increase in Earth's average temperature? (LINK) & (LINK)

Dr. Bruce West, A U.S Army Chief Scientist, Says Sun, Not Man, Is Driving Climate Change ? June 3, 2008 ? (LINK)

21 spotless days and solar magnetic field still in a funk ? Meteorologist Anthony Watts Excerpt: We are now at 21 days with no sunspots, it will be interesting to see if we reach a spotless 30 day period and then perhaps a spotless month of December.

New Arctic ice analysis reveals ?No clear evidence of a delay in the start of the later summer/early fall freeze up or the start of the late winter/early spring melt? ? Excerpt: Based on analysis by William Chapman, author of The Cryosphere Today website, graciously prepared an analysis of the dates of the minimum and maximum Arctic sea ice coverage since 1979.

Oscillation Rules as the Pacific Cools ? December 9, 2008 Excerpt: A cool wedge of lower-than-normal sea-surface heights continues to dominate the tropical Pacific, ringed by a horseshoe of warmer waters. The continuation of this long-term cool phase of the Pacific Decadal Oscillation stacks the odds against a wetter-than-average winter/spring in the southwestern United States. The latest image of sea-surface height measurements from the U.S./French Jason-1 oceanography satellite shows the Pacific Ocean remains locked in a strong, cool phase of the Pacific Decadal Oscillation, a large, long-lived pattern of climate variability in the Pacific associated with a general cooling of Pacific waters. [?] Sea-surface temperature satellite data from the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration mirror Jason sea-surface height measurements, clearly showing a cool Pacific Decadal Oscillation pattern, as seen at:
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. "This multi-year Pacific Decadal Oscillation 'cool' trend can cause La Ni?a-like impacts around the Pacific basin," said Bill Patzert, an oceanographer and climatologist at NASA's Jet Propulsion Laboratory. [?] This cool phase will likely persist this winter and, perhaps, beyond.

Report: Sea Level rise 'has stumbled since 2005' ? Meteorologist Anthony Watts ? December 5, 2008 Excerpt: We?ve been waiting for the UC web page to be updated with the most recent sea level data. It finally has been updated for 2008. It looks like the steady upward trend of sea level as measured by satellite has stumbled since 2005. The 60 day line in blue tells the story. From the University of Colorado web page: ?Long-term mean sea level change is a variable of considerable interest in the studies of global climate change. The measurement of long-term changes in global mean sea level can provide an important corroboration of predictions by climate models of global warming. Long term sea level variations are primarily determined with two different methods.? - Yes, I would agree, it is indeed a variable of considerable interest. The question now is, how is it linked to global climate change (aka global warming) if CO2 continues to increase, and sea level does not?

Peer-Reviewed Study: Recent worldwide land warming' NOT 'a direct response to increasing greenhouse gases (GHGs) over land' - WorldClimateReport.com ? December 3, 2008 ?Rethinking Observed Warming?? Key quote: ?Evidence is presented that the recent worldwide land warming has occurred largely in response to a worldwide warming of the oceans rather than as a direct response to increasing greenhouse gases (GHGs) over land.?

Alert: 2008 will be coolest year of the decade!- December 5, 2008 Excerpt: This year is set to be the coolest since 2000, according to a preliminary estimate of global average temperature that is due to be released next week by the Met Office. The global average for 2008 should come in close to 14.3C, which is 0.14C below the average temperature for 2001-07. [Note: For evidence of the panic apparently gripping the promoters of man-made climate fear, read the quotes in the article from the warming partisans absolutely assuring everyone that cool temperatures are ?absolutely not" evidence that global warming is on the wane. Those same voices are usually absent when it comes to linking heat waves to global warming. ]

Flashback: Global Cooling? - 'Thirty years of warmer temperatures go poof' - National Post ? October 20, 2008

Report: NASA?s James Hansen "adjusts" a cooling trend into a warming trend - December 9, 2008 Excerpt: "[H]ere is what the data looks like before and after NASA GISS adjusts it. These are the USHCN ?raw? and ?homogenized? data plots from the GISTEMP website. The before and after is quite something to behold. ... What was down, is now up." "How not to measure temperature, part 79"

Geophysist: ?It is time to file this theory in the dustbin of history? ? ?Alarmists are in denial and running for cover'- Washington Times

By Geophysicist Dr. David Deming, associate professor of arts and sciences at the University of Oklahoma who has published numerous peer-reviewed research articles. Excerpt: Environmental extremists and global warming alarmists are in denial and running for cover. Their rationale for continuing a lost cause is that weather events in the short term are not necessarily related to long-term climatic trends. But these are the same people who screamed at us each year that ordinary weather events such as high temperatures or hurricanes were undeniable evidence of imminent doom. Now that global warming is over, politicians are finally ready to enact dubious solutions to a non-existent problem. [?] To the extent global warming was ever valid, it is now officially over. It is time to file this theory in the dustbin of history, next to Aristotelean physics, Neptunism, the geocentric universe, phlogiston, and a plethora of other incorrect scientific theories, all of which had vocal and dogmatic supporters who cited incontrovertible evidence. Weather and climate change are natural processes beyond human control. To argue otherwise is to deny the factual evidence.

Climate Chancellor' No More ? Der Spiegel Excerpt: Angela Merkel is facing withering criticism for remarks she made on Monday that seemed to back away from her earlier commitment to tackling climate change.

Alert: Under the Weather: Internal Report Says U.N. Climate Agency Rife With Bad Practices - Fox News ? December 4, 2008

Excerpt: As more than 10,000 delegates and observers gather in Poznan, Poland, to discuss the next phase in the battle against "climate change," a U.N. agency at the center of that hoopla badly needs to do some in-house weather-proofing. [?] But the WMO, the $80 million U.N. front-line agency in the climate change struggle, and the source for much of the world's information in the global atmosphere and water supply, has serious management problems of its own, despite its rapidly expanding global ambitions. The international agency has been sharply criticized by a U.N. inspection unit in a confidential report obtained by FOX News, for, among other things, haphazard budget practices, deeply flawed organizational procedures, and no effective oversight by the 188 nations that formally make up its membership and dole out its funds. The inspection was carried out by a member of the United Nations Joint Inspection Unit (JIU), a small, independent branch of the U.N. that reports to the General Assembly and is mandated to improve the organization's efficiency and coordination through its inspection process. [?] WMO did not respond to a series of questions from FOX News regarding its future programs, sent on the eve of the Poznan meeting.

16-year-old suggests sheep dung can help save planet Card business has really dung good - Daily Post North WalesExcerpt: The company makes its products at the Twll Golau Papermill in Aberllefenni Slate Quarry using sustainable fuel and materials. Every sheet of paper is made from recycled materials, including sheep dung, waste paper and discarded rags, using processes designed to affect the natural environment as little as possible. [?] Katie 16, from Tal-y-Bont, Conwy, was appointed to help spread the word on how Wales can reduce its carbon footprint and is urging other North Wales businesses to follow Creative Paper Wales? example and adopt innovative approaches to the design and manufacture of products and the delivery of services.

Lord Christopher Monckton: 'Companies could be sued over climate change' Excerpt: The alarmist faction knows that, if it were to bring a case against a corporation whose executives were not minded merely to believe in the extremist presentation of "global warming" just because it is temporarily in fashion, they would lose. The case of Dimmock v. Secretaries of State for Education and for the Environment in the UK in 2007 was a very clear warning. The UK Government threw all of the resources of the taxpayer and of the Meteorological Office at the case, attempting to defend Al Gore's sci-fi comedy horror movie against the plaintiff's allegation that it was serially and seriously inaccurate. The Government failed and was humiliated. The judge, having heard both sides, said bluntly of Al Gore, and particularly of his unscientific allegation that sea level was about to rise by 20 feet, that "the Armageddon scenario that he depicts is not based on any scientific view". A few more judgments like that and the "global warming" fantasy would rapidly collapse. End of scare.

OOPS, We Forgot Siberia! (M4GW) - Weather Stations in Coldest parts No Longer Reporting

Excerpt: The thing that these skewed chart never take into account is that when the Soviet Union fell in 1990 the number of reporting weather stations went form a high of 15,000 in 1970 to 5,000 in 2000. This takes some of the coldest places on the planet out of the equation like Siberia. # #
 
Your post was so long, I needed to get up and put another log on the fire to keep warm.
 
202 this is great. However from all the media hype over Global Warming there is already tons of money being spent on BS that the "Al Gore" crap has caused. Jobs have been lost and some jobs created by the nonsense the "Global Warming Craze". My company also has just spent $1 million or more on a project that well at best break even in 5 years. That is if natural gas prices climb back up to $7 an MCF. Current prices are less that $3.5. Then I learned yesterday they are researching a algee farm OMG!

I was flipping through the channels the other day and seen on the "Al Gore network ie Discovery Channel" That they are trying to figure a way to grow meat in a lab so that the cattle industry would no longer be needed. Don't know about anybody else thinks but I am not eating any meat grown in a lab. The whole insannity is just crazy idiots that cannot see that we have zero control over climate. Mother Nature is the ruler of the kingdom and will do whatever she feels like doing. Before we started extracting natural gas from the ground I am sure that methane (more of a greenhouse gas than CO2) was being released at rates probably compared to what all the cars, trucks, airplanes, trains, power plants combined release in CO2. Yet the earth went through several warming and cooling periods over the million of years that earth exsisted. And to think that humans are causing global warming I just have to laugh at anyone that has bought into that idology.

Now I do agree with one thing that we do need more renewable resourses but not because of the global warming craze. Independance from foriegn oil is and should be the main goal. Nuclear, Drilling, Renewables should all be examined. If someone can come up with viable solutions for energy then hot dam lets go for it.

Then you have the guys like in Taos, NM 99% of them have bought the Al Gore book. Yet when a company wants to put up a wind farm they say hell no. NIMBY (Not in My Back Yard). Claiming the noise and electrical interference will effect there lives and dismiss the NIMBY which say what you might is just that. NIMBY. So these gay loving, democrat voting liberals are such hypocrits it amazes me to no end.

I keep praying that something or someone will slap the crap out of them so that they will wake up and have some common sense. Kinda like some of the guys on this site. Show them data and facts yet they dismiss it. But a statement made by "Gore" with manuipulated data is taken in to be like the words from the GOD himself.
 
I just received a message from Tfinal and Hdude. In their message they have decided to silently prove that their is in FACT man made global warming by not responding to this post. Great post.
 
You guys are as quialified to decide the global warming debate as I am to do open heart surgery, anyone need a bypass I'll prove my point?

The majority of the worlds scientic community say man is having an impact so you're out voted as of now, I'll wait until the facts are known to be an expert.
 
AAAAAAAAAAAAHHHH, good old Dude, still showing his reading and comprehension skills, or lack there of.
Dude, go back and re-read the paragraph that starts with Ponzan, Poland. Please read it very very slowly and shake your head to rattle those marbles up there.

RELH
 
LAST EDITED ON Dec-11-08 AT 07:19AM (MST)[p]This whole thing all along has smelled of anything but science. If it isn't science, what are we doing? Following the advice of witch doctors? Following the advice of medicine men? Following the advice of crystal gazers? I voice these questions with entire seriousness. The costs of taking action to curtail CO2 emissions is so staggering, and signing on for that kind of self-flaggelation without very high levels of certainty, knowledge, and quantitization . . . it makes as much sense as going to a crystal gazer to get healthcare.

The jury is still out. I am heartened by the rising voices of dissent. I have more confidence that this issue will be determined on grounds of science rather than the shrill Cassandra cries of dumb headed environmental nuts. I have no objection to concern for the environment, but it is insanity -- thus, the domain of "nuts" -- when concern for the environment is not tempered by understanding of and consideration of other competing interests. The logical conclusion of such unconditioned environmentalism is (1) human beings degrade the environment to some degree, hence (2) human beings ought to be eliminated from "nature."

I plan on living a few more years, maybe another 40 years. Accepting for the moment the hypothesis that "man made global warming/climate change based on increased CO2 emissions" will be totally discredited, I wonder what the costs will be to (1) the environmental movement, (2) to scientists who flushed their scientific credibility for the feel-good notions of "man caused global warming," (3) to Al Gore, (4) to the news media? I'm thinking it is going to be a major black eye for the credibility of the environmental movement. It would join a long line of other excessive and unbalanced positions (1) spotted owl, (2) fork tailed darter (or whatever), (3) global warming, etc. Who is going to believe those wackos any longer if this goes against them? You have heard the story of the boy who cried "wolf" too many times, right? Scientists are supposed to be dispassionate seekers after the truth and are not granted much freedom with producing "guess work" as conclusions and scientific fact. Some of those guys are going to take some hard hits, would be my speculation. The news media, already suffering from conversion from "undisputed source of truth, justice, and the American way" to an entertainment outlet similar to the Jerry Springer show, is going to become more irrelevant, as people seek more viable sources of information than the mainstream media.
 
Dude, by evaluating my post and your subsequent response: looks like Global warming is NOT man made. Thank you for the confirmation. Looks like a cold week is in store for you!
 
RELH leave it to you to go on what Pollocks say.

Where does it say the majority of the worlds scientist disagree with global warming? it says there are more scientist saying it's a farse that there are UN scientist saying it's real. news flash, not all pro warming scientist work for the UN.

Did you know the scentist Reagan put in charge is still on the job and says not only is man made global warming real it's probably too late to save ourselves? now before you say he's crazy think about who put him in charge, REAGAN, Reagan never made a mistake right? so this guy is as close to cimate a god as it gets and he's been on it a long long time.

Like I said I don't know, I'm skeptical but I'm smart enough to know I don't know so that makes me one up on you.
 
Dude, before you can get one up on me, you would have to climb at lease five rungs on the ladder. That will be hard for you to do since you are still hiding under that rock where you really belong. As for Polocks, have you ever considered the possibilty that I would trust their opinion over a mix that you have.

RELH
 
I was talking about intellect not age. if you think you have all the answers to the global warming debate should it surprise me you get your information from Poland? I'm so shocked.
 
That may be a better option then getting it from doing a sun dance like you do!!!
Sorry dude, but your ladder just fell over.

RELH
 
The sun dance has as much logic to it as any other belief or religion. in fact more, aboriginal beliefs put man as a part of nature and the earth not owners of it to use at their disposal. unless you have a space ship to take you to another planet when this one is trashed as primative as they were they were smarter than you.

Your logic is if it isn't good for me today I choose not to believe it. the jury is still out on global warming and none of you clowns have any more idea if it's true than I do but I prefer your ways for now. it's your kids and grandkids who'll feel the pain, I only need about another 30 years lets rock 'n roll it's all good.
 
Did you read it Forewall. Not one word about "Man Made" Global Warming. But they did say how the earth was releasing methane, "the second most potent greenhouse gas." So how do you propose to stop the earth numb nut!

So this article is affirming what I have been saying all along. Man can in no way prevent the earth from doing what it is going to do naturally. I have no doubt forewall that the planet may very well be warming just like I have no doubt it will cool again.

Thank you for a nice supporting article for this thread Forewall.:)
 
One thing for sure is that it's really cold here in NW Kali right now. I'm all for some global warming.



Ransom
 
Who said anything about man-made global warming I didn't. Perhaps if you read the article with a friend that can read they will help you understand.

This article is a direct contradiction to your Global Cooling Post, man-made or not on many fronts.

In either case I could careless about cooling or warming as you well know. I was going to post "I don't care" with the link, but you already know that I don't. Until I receive my PMS in Climatology I really have no opinion.

STOP WHINING RANSOM it was 16 degrees this morning! BRRRRRRRRR
 
This entire thread is about "Man Made Global Warming" Try and keep up Forewall. You said "I really have no opinion".

Then STFU................Its kinda like what Wyatt Erp said to Ike Clanton during the shoot out at the OK Corral.

Ike threw up his hands began begging for his life he fell to his knees in front of Wyatt. Wyatt brushed him aside and said "Get a gun and commence to fightin or get the hell out of the way"

That would be some good advise for you as well Forwall
 
Here we go again with these bdsm homo-erotic references. What is up with the whole male-dominant man on his knees deal? What are really trying to say? This isn't the first time 202, let's not get into that whole fantasy dinner at your place again with everyone from MM watching....creepy to think about.

What is STFU an ancronym for? I'm sure I probably don't want to know other than to assume it is offensive, juvenile, and serves to offend opinions not aligned with yours.

NO, no, and pretty much no..you will not bait me to slide down the slippery slope of Global SYNTAX Change. But the article from my link refutes sea level rise and counters claims in your article which omits the amount of ice loss in it's statements.
I will let other decide without posting and taking up bandwidth.

Now outside of your global cooling article and my global warming article let's say you are right.

Attention everbody 202 was right all along everybody it isn't Man-Made and it isn't Warming. So up-yours all of you synthetic-Al Gore suporting Warming Wannabes.

Now What? Is there still global climate change? Yes...so...
If you supported global warming I would support global cooling and vice versa based on principal alone PMS degree or not.

Look you supported and even worse defended Bush/Cheney and you know it, as such your decision making abilities really lack a basis of credibility. If we were difusing an explosive device with 2 wires one green, one black. I would ask which color wire do you think, then cut the opposite. :)
 
"Attention everbody 202 was right all along everybody it isn't Man-Made and it isn't Warming. So up-yours all of you synthetic-Al Gore suporting Warming Wannabes."

Not only that Forthewall, but Man Made Global Warming is on its way to being disproved.

You guys realy need to lay off the koolaid of the Left.
 
FTW, anyone wanting global cooling over global warming must not like eating.

PRO

Define, develop, and sustain BOTH trophy and opportunity hunts throughout the state of Utah.
 
Man am I ever glad that I opend and read this thread. It reminded me of why I so seldom visit the political forum any longer.
 
Posted by of course Huntingdummy oops I mean Huntindude.

"The majority of the worlds scientic community say man is having an impact"

Totally untrue, if you would like more info i can give it to you, have a paper where 30,000 scientists totally believe global warming that is man caused is the biggest bunch of bullshit ever..
Huntindude if you want to do some research, wasnt that long ago they were worried about global cooling, that was in 70's. Oh and the whole in the ozone caused by floralcarbons.. another laugh.. Funny how you say everyone is crying the sky is falling when it comes to Obama, then we can show you scientific evidence proves man made global warming is bullshit but you still believe it.. Talk about someone screaming the sky is falling.. You got rocks for brains dude......
 
Once again bunco talks and bunco's wrong.

The majority of the worlds scientist say man made global warming is real, or they feel it is possible. find a credible source that says otherwise, and I don't mean " global warming is fake .com " I mean find a non biased source that says otherwise.

It's the ones who aren't sure yet who will decide the direction we take. the majority do feel man is having an impact, but the verdict isn't in so sit and watch. bunco I'm no scientist and it's easy to tell you couldn't mix water and dirt and determine if you had mud so lets just let the experts do their job.
 

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