I arrowed a buck on Friday and it still had velvet. The question is it was all dried up but still in tact except for a few small areas. There still is some bucks I have seen that are in velvet yet but most are hard horned now. I'm not sure way he didn't shed his velvet. He was a 3x3 with eye guards and a good buck for me. It is getting harder each year as I get older so I was happy. LOL