definitely a whopper--great looking, but I have to agree with Big Chicken--I threw this at him--2x22" mains, 2x14", 2x12", 2x 16", 2x2", 2" kicker and 40" mass, 24" inside---puts it right at 198"--he sure looks better though--probably has more mass than I'm allowing and maybe a hair more length, so that would kick him above 200" easily if so--the more you look at him the better he gets---chris