4 man seek outside with I think the medium stove. I didn’t realize they stopped making them. There’s one on the classifieds right now I almost want to buy just to have another. To be honest I don’t know what it weighs packed. It, my quilt,pad,pillow and tyvek ground cloth all fit in a medium kifaru 5 string and the stove straps on the outside in a claymore. It weighs what it weighs. My pack has what I need. I walk to where I hunt. I stopped counting ounces a long time ago but I do know my packs anywhere from 50-55 pounds in the way in (with weapon) that tent set up is invaluable to me in the later seasons. If the packs too heavy I’ll just bring less food