I usually drive 40 minutes, then hike 2 hrs to starting point, look for one hour, run down hill to jeep for 45 minutes, then drive home for 40 minutes. It takes up a lot of time traveling to only look 1 hour. The past 3 years follow the same pattern. Some year I will have more time. I usually only can make it out about 5 times each year. I do know some great spots about 4 hours away but never seem to make it.