Lyman Great Plains and Hawken Renegade Powder

Tikka

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Hello guys, it’s been well over 35 years since I’ve shot either one of these guns… I don’t even remember what powder I use back then although I know it was 90 g by volume… I have a muzzleloader antelope tag and I’m going to use one of the two guns to hunt with…

What powder you guys recommend I start trying?
 
Back when I shot my prehistoric front stuffer, I used Triple-7. I also have a can of Pyrodex, so I must have used that too.

You got caps for that thing? Let me know if you need any of that stuff. Might take me a minute to find it. :ROFLMAO:

If I had half your $, I’d buy a modern $400 gun that used 209’s and BH 209. You’ll still have enough money for beer to sight it in.:)
 
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Back when I shot my prehistoric front stuffer, I used Triple-7. I also have a can of Pyrodex, so I must have used that too.

You got caps for that thing? Let me know if you need any of that stuff. Might take me a minute to find it. :ROFLMAO:

If I had half your $, I’d buy a modern $400 gun that used 209’s and BH 209. You’ll still have enough money for beer to sight it in.:)
Somewhere around here I have caps, like you I just have to find them…😳 if not I’ll be calling…🤣

Trust me, the modern front stuffer will be along for the ride…😁

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Those old style muzzleloaders need real blackpowder. If you use pyrodex or 777 or other powders they will work, but you will get hang fires.
I use ff or fff goex BP in my Lyman GPs.
 
75-85 (90??) grains 777 2F and a squat conical will be in the zone.

100 grains and a roundball should do the job too.

No vote on the pyrodex, too much corrosion.

Of course, black powder is always the historically suitable option.
 
75-85 (90??) grains 777 2F and a squat conical will be in the zone.

100 grains and a roundball should do the job too.

No vote on the pyrodex, too much corrosion.

Of course, black powder is always the historically suitable option.
Agreed. Those slower twist barrels won’t like a real long (heavy) bullet.
 
Hello guys, it’s been well over 35 years since I’ve shot either one of these guns… I don’t even remember what powder I use back then although I know it was 90 g by volume… I have a muzzleloader antelope tag and I’m going to use one of the two guns to hunt with…

What powder you guys recommend I start trying?
I shoot 90gr of 2F triple seven out of my 54 cal Lyman GPR percussion gun with good results out to 100 yards. I’m shooting patched round balls. Never had a hang fire. My GPR has the Lyman tang peep sight, it really helps. Killed a moose and two elk with that setup.
 
Hello guys, it’s been well over 35 years since I’ve shot either one of these guns… I don’t even remember what powder I use back then although I know it was 90 g by volume… I have a muzzleloader antelope tag and I’m going to use one of the two guns to hunt with…

What powder you guys recommend I start trying?
What states the Antelope?
 
Thats the ticket, I'll be getting these for sure...
Start at 75grains I’d be surprised if you need to go over 85. Conicals are heavy locomotives, Just hit the target at any speed and its done for. Push too hard and they can lose control. If accuracy diminishes, gun sounds less “sharp” and you are cleaning lots of lead particles on your patch, you’ve blown past your exit.
 
I Always Used GOEX 3fff In The Old SmokePole!

Where You Finding Any Of The BLACK NASTY elkantlers?

Those old style muzzleloaders need real blackpowder. If you use pyrodex or 777 or other powders they will work, but you will get hang fires.
I use ff or fff goex BP in my Lyman GPs.
 
I Always Used GOEX 3fff In The Old SmokePole!

Where You Finding Any Of The BLACK NASTY elkantlers?

And this is a full 1lb keg. ;)

 
I'm Amazed You Can Still Buy The GOEX!

Several Years Ago When I Tried Finding Some I Couldn't Find It Anywhere!

Thanks!



And this is a full 1lb keg. ;)

 
I should probably use your Hawken, she’s a killer…
Tikka,
I have some real BP I could spare, I know I have some 3 and 4F, not sure if I have any 2F.
I also have some #11’s I could help you with.
It is all bundled up with a custom built 12 gauge muzzy shotgun if you or anyone else is interested?
$500 or trade for Ruger .357.
Or someone give me an 870 and a little cash.
Or I give gun and a little cash for an AR.
Or….

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Shane, that’s a good looking shotgun you have there… I was able to get some ffg from my brother…
Thanks though
 
I Don't Imagine It Would Group Slugs Too Well?

Tikka,
I have some real BP I could spare, I know I have some 3 and 4F, not sure if I have any 2F.
I also have some #11’s I could help you with.
It is all bundled up with a custom built 12 gauge muzzy shotgun if you or anyone else is interested?
$500 or trade for Ruger .357.
Or someone give me an 870 and a little cash.
Or I give gun and a little cash for an AR.
Or….

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I always used pyrodex in my .54 hawken. Killed an elk and a deer with it. Shot the elk with a heavy buffalo bullet. 460 grains if I remember correctly. That load would give you a headache after a few shots.

Changed to a Barnes Expander Mz for my deer hunt. That load was much more pleasurable to shoot.

Both loads killed like lightning.
 
Oh yeah, on the Williams sight, are you struggling with far sightedness or something else about it?

I’m far sighted now days and think I’m going to have to use a red dot from here on out. I can’t read a menu or my phone without readers.
 

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