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>This must really be bothering you,
>since you also posted the
>same topic over on AR.
> You got a lot
>of feedback over there, including
>from me (DLS). I'm
>going to answer in a
>little different format here, since
>you've posted even more things
>you don't like paying for.
> You asked:
>
>Transport to and from the airport?
>
>If you were chartering into camp
>from town on a Cessna
>Caravan or even just a
>206, you'd pay a hefty
>air charter fee, so why
>do you think someone engaging
>in cost to get to
>camp via vehicle should do
>it for no compensation?
>They have costs, that pickup doesn't
>run on fresh air.
>Consider it a bonus if the
>safari operator doesn't charge you,
>but business as usual if
>he does. However, I
>think a per vehicle fee
>is much more appropriate than
>a per person fee.
>
>Rifle rental?
>If you don't want to
>bring your own guns, but
>instead want to use his,
>why not pay a reasonable
>rent for the privilege?
>Would you willingly just give
>your guns to someone for
>a couple weeks if you
>were in his position?
>
>Ammo?
>Do I even need to respond
>to this one? You
>seriously think ammo is free?
>
>
>Alcohol?
>Varies by operator, just as consumption
>varies by guest. Some
>are light to moderate users,
>so shouldn't be a big
>deal. However, for those
>who seriously imbibe, why should
>safari operator pay for your
>inebriation?
>
>Observer rate?
>This was covered in detail, by
>many people, over on AR.
> Doesn't even merit discussion
>here.
>
>For me personally i despise the
>pickup and return fee.
>I don't agree with rifle rental
>fee but if it is
>10 or 20 a day
>so be it. 50 a
>day is highway robbery.
>I have no thoughts on this
>as i don't drink.
>I understand charging an observer rate
>but do not understand why
>it is for example 250
>a day. If the observer
>is hunting with me the
>only cost the outfitter has
>is food, clothes washing and
>toiletries. I understand a charge
>but when i see 200
>or 250 plus i shake
>my head.
>Your thoughts?
>My thoughts... You should
>probably stick to hunting in
>South Africa and Namibia where
>quotas are quite flexible and
>you can work out whatever
>kind of deal you want
>with the people you book
>hunts with. When you
>start hunting in other countries
>where quotas are more limited
>and it likely takes away
>from someone else's safari if
>you get extra animals, so
>you don't get to so
>easily add extra animals instead
>of paying observer rates, then
>you're naturally going to see
>higher observer rates, as they
>can't make it up in
>extra animals. Either way,
>the safari operator needs to
>make a profit to keep
>doing what he does.
>
>Since you've posed these questions on
>two different websites, let me
>pose a few for you
>to ponder. #1, why
>should safari daily rates be
>different in countries such as
>Zambia, Mozambique or... TANZANIA than
>in South Africa? #2,
>Why should trophy fees be
>higher in some of these
>countries than in South Africa?
> #3, why do some
>people find value in hunting
>in places like these other
>countries than in South Africa?
> #4,Shouldn't everyone just go
>where it is least expensive
>and you can negotiate away
>the daily rate for observers,
>to be made up in
>other ways instead of paying
>higher daily rates, trophy fees
>and observer rates?
CAelknuts it actually doesn't bother me at all. I know what i want and that is where I go. When i want others thoughts i go to the AR forum since there is always a good response. I looked at this forum and it has been almost 3 weeks since a post so I put something on here to try and generate a response.
Of course I know i have to pay for ammo. I listed some misc fees i see charged; no more, no less.
It does not seem to matter what is posted on here in regards to Africa it just does not generate much response.
I see a lot of posts on multiple websites; i am certainly not the first or last to do that asking the same question to different groups of people.
