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Well, is this just another lefty BS liberal issue, or will some of you new admit it is a real issue? Many of us have been griping about this for years and a lot of people just say, "well, you cant blame oil and gas you have to bame the poachers. . . " True enough, but this article points out that it's the access and remoteness of the areas that invite the poachers.

CLOSE THE ROAD mand the drillers pay!!!!

Poachers making a killing in West's oil, gas fields
Illegal hunters take advantage of access offered by new roads

By Patrick O'Driscoll
USA TODAY

DENVER ? Intense drilling for natural gas and oil in the Rocky Mountain West is triggering a rise in the illegal killing of elk, deer and other "trophy" game because new roads make remote areas accessible in winter, wildlife managers report.

Parts of Wyoming, Colorado and New Mexico are flooded with crews working thousands of well sites and drill rigs. The result: more people among wildlife herds.

"The road densities in these areas have quadrupled. And they keep them plowed in winter," says Dave Hays, a warden in southwestern Wyoming for the state Game and Fish Department. "They see all these big game right there, in places where maybe you never see anybody for 30 miles, and they think, 'Why not?' "

Statistics on the illegal killing of game, or poaching, are hard to tally because most states track only prosecutions. Authorities in Wyoming, Colorado and New Mexico say wardens are finding more headless carcasses, a sign of killings solely for trophies.

More poaching "is something we have noticed as more and more oil and gas exploration and drilling goes on," says Dan Williams of the New Mexico Department of Game and Fish. "We're constantly out there, investigating cases."

Poaching occurs year-round in every state, but winter is the most vulnerable time in the interior West. Snow drives herds from higher elevations to once-remote valleys that now are crisscrossed with thousands of miles of roads.

Hays and wardens in other states say the poaching isn't just by energy company workers. Easier road access attracts opportunists seeking trophies for the wall.

Drill-rig worker Joseph Chapman, 36, of Provo, Utah, pleaded guilty this month to felony charges for killing a big-racked mule deer in northwest Colorado last Thanksgiving. Under a proposed plea bargain, he could be fined up to $100,000. He also could lose hunting privileges for a year to life here and in 23 other states that cooperate in tracking and prosecuting poachers.

Hays says the cases wildlife officials investigate are only a fraction of the losses.

"The biggest problem is poaching for economic gain to feed the black market (with) trophy elk and mule deer heads, those kinds of things," says Steve Torbic of the National Wildlife Federation.

Wyoming Game and Fish reports that unlicensed hunting and fishing infractions in 2005 doubled to more than 880 from a decade earlier. Big-game violations were up 58%, with most of the growth during the recent oil-and-gas boom.

Wardens are trying to fight back:

?Wyoming keeps a DNA database for several states with tissue from headless carcasses. States can compare those genetic samples with DNA from trophy heads and antlers taken from suspected poachers. Wyoming's most intense drilling areas, in the western half of the state, are home to an estimated 100,000 deer, 100,000 pronghorn antelope, and elk, moose and other wild species.

?Colorado uses unmarked vehicles and plainclothes wardens in its winter-range patrols. The state also hired a former energy company staffer to work with the oil and gas firms on wildlife. Northwestern Colorado, where most of the new drilling takes place, has the state's two largest elk herds.

?New Mexico conducts night flights in the northwest part of the state to seek poachers who "spotlight" elk and deer after dark. Game decoys are deployed to lure illegal hunters.

The energy boom brings more people and roads into wildlife habitat. Of the 55,000 square miles of oil and gas leases on federal lands in the West, more than 43,000 are in Wyoming, Colorado, New Mexico and Utah. The area is dotted with thousands of well sites.

"We haven't seen the tip of the iceberg," says Ron Velarde, northwest manager for the Colorado Division of Wildlife. "I've seen estimates of 50,000 more gas wells."

Energy companies work to prevent poaching. They brief workers on the laws and bar guns from worksites and employee vehicles. EnCana, a major natural gas firm operating in northwestern Colorado, conducts random searches with gun-sniffing dogs. "It's just another way of telling all the workforce that we're very serious about no weapons on our locations," says Darrin Henke of EnCana.

The company also contributes to Colorado's Operation Game Thief, which rewards cash to tipsters who report poachers. Similar programs are in virtually every state.

"A lot of our guys love to hunt and fish," says Rick Robitaille of Anadarko Petroleum. "They're pretty upset when somebody does something wrong themselves."

"Roadless areas, in general, represent some of the best fish and wildlife habitat on public lands. The bad news is that there is nothing positive about a road where fish and wildlife habitat are concerned -- absolutely nothing." (B&C Professor, Jack Ward Thomas, Fair Chase, Fall 2005, p.10).
 
So, we are supposed to curb gas and oil production because of poachers?

Maybe we should ban all sales of guns because of these people too?
 
So if you get a DUI you blame the car maker???




Kyle
"If it moves shoot it again"
 
I think what this points out is that the issues related to wildlife and development are very complicated and not just environmental in nature. . .
 
Why don't you just come out and say what you really want Tshot. Putting an end to oil and gas exploration.

Your a greenie in hunter orange. Dosen't green peace have a fourm you could rant on.
 
LAST EDITED ON Feb-21-07 AT 09:46AM (MST)[p]Live in the northwestern part of NM with all the horrific, nasty, enviromental nightmare, pro-poaching oil and gas production.

So friggen stupid. Why dont everybody start walking and shut off the electricity to your house, turn off the gas that heats your homes, only bath during rain storms ect ect.









Yup being a lot sarcastic here.

Guess what according to local game wardens, hunters, outdoorsmans. Poaching in the Four Corners in the offseason is down. Way down in the last few years.

With the oilfield workers of today - poaching is way down to what it was in the past. How is that???? Can not be true can it???? Well it seems that with the oilfield activity 24/7 that there is eyes almost everywhere where as we have what 4 G&F officers and possible 4 state cops patrolling over a 50 miles square area? 100% of the oilfield workers I talk to have dealings with ect will not hesitate to turn in a poacher.

Well guess what? You liberal do not know crap anti American.

This just shows exactly how the liberal - antigun - socialist - spew falsehoods to try and turn the real conservation people of this country against each other.

The real conservation people of this country - yup hunters and 90% of which are smart enough to understand what they are after. Stop hunting - so we can get there guns and force this country into a socialistic society.

So continue to spew falsehoods - take away the american way of life with the socialistic agenda of the liberal left.


Oh by the way read the artical about bovines actually contributing to more greenhouse gases than the humans? So now they what everyone to turn to vegetarians.
 
Hey 30, is your beef with the author, or are you saying the guys quoted in the article are lieing?
 
Yes,

It lists Northwestern NM as having a bad poaching problem. Well I would say maybe 8 years ago or more yes it was.

But if you talk to any of the G&F officers, that take care of this area it has gotten 100% better because of the oilfield workers. And the poachers know that they will get turned in because in the local paper years back they started printing articles based on that fact.

Also the Oil & Gas workers were not the ones poaching as the authur refers to. The roads have been there for 25 years+.

You want to go to an area that has a bad poaching problem go up around Taos, Chama, Espinola, Cuba. No Oil & Gas - No industry just people some illegals just living with there own laws.


I do not know about the other areas. But in the Four Corners area where the author is refering it is false and incorrect.
 
You would think if there was such a big problem in my area there would not be any trophy elk, trophy deer. Since all the poaching going on and all.


How come all the applications for deer in the area? If your lucky you can draw a 2B tag once every 5 years. 2C tag forget it. 2A tag maybe every 3 years.

#1 buck in the state.

#1 bow kill elk in state was killed in 2004 only to be eclipsed this year in a different area.
 

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