Muzzle Loader Scope Voting Poll

[slamdunk]

Good for them! And to their credit, they have tried to educate the public regarding that nasty weed, BUT until we find a way to eradicate cheatgrass, many of those projects will come to naught.

I cannot argue that EFA.....I'm with you.

 

[elkfromabove]

1And I was told the other day by someone that UT was way ahead of most other states in matters of game management and conservation

We are ahead in some matters of game management, BUT, again, they are secondary to eradicating/controlling cheatgrass. ALL our neighbors are losing mule deer just like we are. And no matter how they (or we) manage them, no matter how we hunt them, no matter what the human population growth is, no matter how many predators we kill, no matter what the weather is like, no matter how many crossovers, escape ramps, fences, guzzlers, water catchments or wells we build, no matter how many seedlings we plant or seeds we drop from aircraft or pinions and junipers we lop and scatter, the best we've been able to do is save some deer herds for a limited period of time, but no long-term growth is happening. Why not?

https://ucanr.edu/blogs/blogcore/postdetail.cfm?postnum=24847

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(Edited) Note Hawaii on the map. Wildfires in Maui? Yep! Cheatgrass!

Maybe MDF should put more money, time and manpower into fighting cheatgrass?

 

[roadrunner]

We are ahead in some matters of game management...

Not really. UT is finally starting to catch up.

 

[slamdunk]

We are ahead in some matters of game management, BUT, again, they are secondary to eradicating/controlling cheatgrass. ALL our neighbors are losing mule deer just like we are. And no matter how they (or we) manage them, no matter how we hunt them, no matter what the human population growth is, no matter how many predators we kill, no matter what the weather is like, no matter how many crossovers, escape ramps, fences, guzzlers, water catchments or wells we build, no matter how many seedlings we plant or seeds we drop from aircraft or pinions and junipers we lop and scatter, the best we've been able to do is save some deer herds for a limited period of time, but no long-term growth is happening. Why not?

https://ucanr.edu/blogs/blogcore/postdetail.cfm?postnum=24847

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(Edited) Note Hawaii on the map. Wildfires in Maui? Yep! Cheatgrass!

Maybe MDF should put more money, time and manpower into fighting cheatgrass?

You are correct, cheatgrass is of the Devil ?

 

[elkfromabove]

You are correct, cheatgrass is of the Devil ?

?And that piece only shows about half of the cheating!

 

[notdonhunting]

I belive some of these collar studies the MDF, SFW and DWR are funding will make a difference. Finding out where deer actually migrate and winter will greatly help the deer survival needs.
Alot of the habitat projects in the past was where we thought deer should be not always where they wanted to be.

 

[elkassassin]

So?

Are you Starting a Committee?

I belive some of these collar studies the MDF, SFW and DWR are funding will make a difference. Finding out where deer actually migrate and winter will greatly help the deer survival needs.
Alot of the habitat projects in the past was where we thought deer should be not always where they wanted to be.

 

[slamdunk]

So?

Are you Starting a Committee?

There already are committees that take these studies heavily into consideration.....every Committee uses these factors.

 

[elkassassin]

Well!

The Cheat Grass Deal Ain't Nothing New!

There already are committees that take these studies heavily into consideration.....every Committee uses these factors.

 

[slamdunk]

Well!

The Cheat Grass Deal Ain't Nothing New!

Nope, it's nasty stuff.
Crazy how it just automatically grows everywhere there's been a fire, almost like it was purposely seeded.

 

[roadrunner]

So?

Are you Starting a Committee?

Committee, committee, committee...

 

[elkfromabove]

There are already means and ways of controlling cheatgrass, but to do it on a large scale would require some planning and financing. If we need a committee to do that, then so be it! But whatever we do would be worth it! (IMHO, of course.)

 

[elkassassin]

Something Before Now Shoulda Been Tried!

Something That Might Worked That Is!

There are already means and ways of controlling cheatgrass, but to do it on a large scale would require some planning and financing. If we need a committee to do that, then so be it! But whatever we do would be worth it! (IMHO, of course.)

 

[elkfromabove]

Something Before Now Shoulda Been Tried!

Something That Might Worked That Is!

You have no argument from me, Bess! Several things have been tried, but most of them disturbed the soil in some way, ie;
(burning, plowing, scrapping, chaining, dropping various seeds, funguses), but cheatgrass thrives on disturbed soil.

Remember Black Fingers of Death? Very effective in the lab/test area, but impossible to establish in the field. We now have Rejuvra and Esplanade, two herbicides that target cheatgrass, but they have to be applied every year by hand for at least 5 years and cost about $50 per acre per year. There's gotta be a better way, but we need the money, time, interest, cooperation from private, state and federal land managers and DWR to pull it off. We do it for the hunts, why not this issue. As you know, I support the opportunities to hunt and this issue could double those opportunities. And it certainly would add to the trophy numbers!

BTW: end of highjack, for me at least.

 

[elkassassin]

I Do Remember It efa!

But I Don't Think I Ever Heard FOR SURE What Became With It?

You have no argument from me, Bess! Several things have been tried, but most of them disturbed the soil in some way, ie;
(burning, plowing, scrapping, chaining, dropping various seeds, funguses), but cheatgrass thrives on disturbed soil.

Remember Black Fingers of Death? Very effective in the lab/test area, but impossible to establish in the field.