Kawboy and I were hunting together yesterday, he didnt see much but got to help pack mine out lol. Played cat and mouse with him for about a hour and a half. Was able to stick with him in the thick quakies and pines while he was playing every trick big muleys do. Doubling back, kicking does one direction him going another, trying to circle down wind and finally caught him in a big mistake sneaking by me at about 20 ft.