Flinger- I think what Nebo1200 is saying, is that the DWR is giving a heard counts much higher than the numbers any of us are seeing. They claim they are there, but, where?? When pressed the DWR stated that most were on the East side of the unit, on private land. I personaly would dare say that the bigger bulls are there....
Slayem- Over the past few years there hasn't been alot of elk off the Summit Trail, like years past. You will find some down in Black Canyon, but, probably nothing over the 310-320 mark. Not sure why that is, but it seem the smaller bulls seem to have it made down in there. Shoot me a PM and I'll see if I can't give you a little more info.
Elk