430 in a monster for sure. I think he will be shot in the archery hunt, or gov tag. I wonder if we cut some more tags, (and provide less opportunity) if we could get a 440-450 net bull? Is'nt that the goal to set a new state record every year? Make conservation tags worth more money? I for one think we can have super quality and provide more opportunity with a few changes in hunts and season dates. Management bull hunts etc. Similar to Arizona, Nevada, and New Mexico. Not asking to change to Colorado, and Idaho management. Not trying to change this thread. Could someone from the elk committee give us an update? Thanks, Greg