>Grizzly, my bad on the selective
>editing accusation. I was hoping
>that you were stepping back
>from the socialist point of
>view a little bit.
>
>Let me try giving you ?my?
>answers to the questions you
>had for me.
>
>>Let's assume you're correct and a
>>day is coming where the
>>Earth literally hits a point
>>of zero accessible petroleum remaining...
>>should we delay the end
>>of mankind on Earth through
>>conservation and alternative energy, or
>>just consider it a foregone
>>conclusion and rape and pillage
>>what resources we have?
>
>First my belief is that God
>will decide on the time
>of the end of mankind
>on earth. I know that
>statement makes me a nut
>in your world,,but that is
>ok.
>
>Am I opposed to conservation and
>alternative energy? Not at all.
> Although the foot print
>of both solar and wind
>is right on the edge
>of by passing that of
>mining and energy extraction all
>over the western landscape we
>both love.
>
>Finally, if my use of fossil
>fuels makes me a rapist
>of our natural spaces then
>Sir you are the same.
>
>
>>And if Patagonia is a wolf
>>in sheep's clothing, and oil
>>companies intend to get every
>>drop of oil regardless of
>>public or private land, what
>>does that make those oil
>>companies when it comes to
>>hunting.
>
>Patagonia is a cloathing co. that
>thrives in a capitalistic society,,
>and then for some reason
>thinks it is ok to
>bash the very industry that
>provides the material from which
>they make their product.
>(Marketing to the brain dead)
>
>So that makes oil company?s
>a giant behemoth that does
>great harm to hunting because
>it is supported by rapist
>like me and you,,,and Patagonia.
>
>
>Of coarse you can live in
>a cave like a
> real Grizzly,, and not
>be a hipacrit.
I hope if nothing else you'll open your mind up a little. Obviously your beliefs are yours, I ain't gonna change that. But I hope you'll start to look around. Hunting is going through a reformation, or revolution. I love Newberg and Rinella. But its a LA comedian and UFC color guy who is the #1 voice for hunters now. For all the crap I give the flat brimmers, these young guys are the driving force. They still care about killing big stuff, but more and more their content is about the experience, the journey. Some are new to hunting, and they correctly(in my view) recognize the overwhelming importance of the land. RMEF and DU have been preaching habitat forever. Now the new wave is paying attention.
That new wave listens to crap music, tat themselves up, wear earrings, and flat brims. They are more liberal, less religious. I have almost nothing in common with them. EXCEPT, like them I spent tons of time on public land.
Ridgetops tag is right, change is coming. Us older, more conservative, more redneck guys need to open our eyes and see who ACTUALLY is on board, and who TALKS A GOOD GAME, THEN BACKROOMS US.
We can all see the anti groups that Patagonia has in their orbit.
The ones you need to fear are the ones you can't see. The ones like Romney driving around in a 02 chev truck, trying to give you good optics while he BACKROOMS everything.
If nothing else, change your affiliation to I(independent), vote for your usuals, but at least they don't take you for granted.
From the party of HUNTIN, FISHIN, PUBLIC LAND.