NMPaul
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>Paul,
>It is nothing personal, I have
>helped you in the past
>and will do it again
>in the future, as I
>am sure you would.
>This is about the most
>fundamental principle of American law.
> I paid for something
>that was advertised as X,
>midway through, after incurring many
>costs, the rules change and
>I do not receive any
>benefit from the money spent.
> That is a taking.
> I don't care if
>it was only $1.
>It is still a taking.
>
>___________________________________
>
>You stated in two earlier posts:
>
>"Having a few grand tied up
>on a credit card for
>2 months is not damages.
>
>Interest??? $50 ????
>
>Most transaction fees on Credit card
>cash advances are a one
>time fee of 3% or
>4% and 0% apr. Or
>if you just charged it,
>unless you are in really
>bad standings it would be
>12-14% apr for the length
>of time you have the
>money out. Maybe a couple
>hundred bucks."
>_____________________________
>A business person will file in
>court and/or put a very
>dark mark on your credit
>record for a very small
>(never insignificant) amount of money,
>all in an attempt to
>compel you to make a
>payment that is just and
>owed. The government is
>even worse about chasing down
>a very small amount of
>money it perceives to be
>owed, and will spend thousands
>to recoup pennies. That
>is how serious this taking
>is by NM G&F supported
>by an unreasoned legal opinion
>by the AG's office.
>
>Will I sue to get my
>money back-no it would cost
>thousands to recoup $200-I am
>not the government. But
>the State of NM can
>and should rethink the draw.
>
>
>Screw me once, shame on you.
> Screw me twice, shame
>on me. I ain;t
>gonna be shamed.
Jim, a couple things. We are not on opposite sides of this issue.
I think we both agree it is a mess.
This was a court decision, not a NMGF decision. This was not an intentional "screwing".
My comments in regards to damages in the correct context were when everyone was screaming sue, law suit etc....
My point was the damages did not warrant a lawsuit, just basing it on common sense. Not to say that all lawsuits originate with common sense.
I am under the understanding that the court chose the timing of the decision.
I apply in other states and I would be pissed also about this if I was in a NR shoes. However, who do you focus your anger at is the question??
In this post the anger has been directed towards NMGF (not their fault), the residents (yep, go back and see how many poster were mad at the residents), we got into federal land, state land who the animals belong to etc.
Bottom line, it was just the poor timing of events, due to a legal decision. NMGF, is trying to do damage control for something that was dropped in their lap.
Sorry that you have taken offense to my posts. I hope you can see my points.
>It is nothing personal, I have
>helped you in the past
>and will do it again
>in the future, as I
>am sure you would.
>This is about the most
>fundamental principle of American law.
> I paid for something
>that was advertised as X,
>midway through, after incurring many
>costs, the rules change and
>I do not receive any
>benefit from the money spent.
> That is a taking.
> I don't care if
>it was only $1.
>It is still a taking.
>
>___________________________________
>
>You stated in two earlier posts:
>
>"Having a few grand tied up
>on a credit card for
>2 months is not damages.
>
>Interest??? $50 ????
>
>Most transaction fees on Credit card
>cash advances are a one
>time fee of 3% or
>4% and 0% apr. Or
>if you just charged it,
>unless you are in really
>bad standings it would be
>12-14% apr for the length
>of time you have the
>money out. Maybe a couple
>hundred bucks."
>_____________________________
>A business person will file in
>court and/or put a very
>dark mark on your credit
>record for a very small
>(never insignificant) amount of money,
>all in an attempt to
>compel you to make a
>payment that is just and
>owed. The government is
>even worse about chasing down
>a very small amount of
>money it perceives to be
>owed, and will spend thousands
>to recoup pennies. That
>is how serious this taking
>is by NM G&F supported
>by an unreasoned legal opinion
>by the AG's office.
>
>Will I sue to get my
>money back-no it would cost
>thousands to recoup $200-I am
>not the government. But
>the State of NM can
>and should rethink the draw.
>
>
>Screw me once, shame on you.
> Screw me twice, shame
>on me. I ain;t
>gonna be shamed.
Jim, a couple things. We are not on opposite sides of this issue.
I think we both agree it is a mess.
This was a court decision, not a NMGF decision. This was not an intentional "screwing".
My comments in regards to damages in the correct context were when everyone was screaming sue, law suit etc....
My point was the damages did not warrant a lawsuit, just basing it on common sense. Not to say that all lawsuits originate with common sense.
I am under the understanding that the court chose the timing of the decision.
I apply in other states and I would be pissed also about this if I was in a NR shoes. However, who do you focus your anger at is the question??
In this post the anger has been directed towards NMGF (not their fault), the residents (yep, go back and see how many poster were mad at the residents), we got into federal land, state land who the animals belong to etc.
Bottom line, it was just the poor timing of events, due to a legal decision. NMGF, is trying to do damage control for something that was dropped in their lap.
Sorry that you have taken offense to my posts. I hope you can see my points.