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When compared to the RNC, I bet you would hear more true stories in the local nut house.
There is no mention of what Republican control did to the country, and thats no surprise, but Ryans telling of a plant closure in his state, and blaming it on Obama is classic because it actually closed under Bush,and he told it again weeks after being called out on the lie!

I think these republicans would tell a lie when the truth might help, Taking Obamas comment about communties helping build a great nation is another classic, I bet you don't hear nearly the amount things taken totally out of contex in the DNC convention.

I bet the Dems will not uniformly parade around saying Romney "likes to fire people" or he "is not concerned about the poor"

Overall the republicans are the party the represents the narcissitic, and thats fine, but just look at how that has actually backfired on the economy , and thats everyones economy excepting the top five percent or so of the population.
 
Latest Gallup poll projected that 6.9 million Obama voters from 2008 will not vote for him this fall. Guess you can argue that both sides are a bunch of liars but only one will win and elections have consequences.
 
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Piper,

Any chance of you having a shred of credibility has been completely shredded by that post. Neither side is honest, I would post the lies that the Obama campaign continues to use but you simply don't care.

If you go look at the quote of Romney about firing people it he was saying he likes to have a choice where he buys health insurance and he liked to be able to fire people he buys products from.

I know you are now in the tank but lies abound on each side.

I know facts that point to you being wrong don't matter to you but you should at least go look at what Obama promised on the Janesville Auto Plant and why Ryan wasn't lying.

http://washingtonexaminer.com/fact-...keep-janesville-gm-plant-open/article/2506462

Again I understand you think the Democrats are not going to lie but you cannot use a lie to make up things. The facts are that that Janesville plant was used as an Obama prop and he personally promised that it would remain open. It didn't happen.

Nemont
 
LAST EDITED ON Aug-30-12 AT 09:04AM (MST)[p] Glen-I know, thats whats scary, our economy will look like Mexicos a lot sooner than you think, not good for the future.

Your probably lucky you are so old Glen, one more phoney boom is probably all you need.
 
Nemont, Obamas"you didn't build that" was taken out of contex, and both of Romneys quotes were also.
 
So taken out of context is okay for you as long as it makes a Republican look bad? It is fine for a Democrat to lie and use quotes out of context but a Republican should never do that?

It is an idiotic position to even attempt to defend.

You realize the Janesville plant has never officially closed. The last vehicle built there was built in April of 2009. Now explain how Ryan lied, unless facts don't matter to you and you accept lies as truth.

Nemont
 
Piper-I would love one more good boom before I hang it up. Now, stop watching the biggest liars on television at MSNBC.
 
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I think he has a good chance!
 
Just who is the liar? Here is a little fact checker from today's Washington Post:

"Here are the facts:

1. On February 13, 2008 Obama said in Janesville : ?I believe that if our government is there to support you, and give you the assistance you need to re-tool and make this transition, that this plant will be here for another hundred years.?

2. In June 2008 GM announced that the Janesville plant would stop production of medium-duty trucks by the end of 2009, and stop production of large SUVs in 2010 or sooner.

3. In October 2008 Obama doubled down on his promise to keep Janesville plant open: ?As president, I will lead an effort to retool plants like the GM facility in Janesville so we can build the fuel-efficient cars of tomorrow and create good-paying jobs in Wisconsin and all across America.?

4. In December 2008 GM idled production of GM SUVs at the Janesville plant. Medium-duty truck assembly continued.

5. In April 2009, four months after Obama was inaugurated, GM idled production of medium-duty trucks.

6. In September 2011, more than two years after Obama was inaugurated, GM reiterates that Janesville plant is on ?stand by status.? Auto industry observer David Cole, tells the Milwaukee Journal-Sentinel it would be premature to say the Janesville plant will never reopen."

What say you Piper?
 
LAST EDITED ON Aug-30-12 AT 02:58PM (MST)[p]Piper, you must be drinking some good hooch. Why don't you elaborate on the infamous campaign ad where the guy lost his job because of Romney then explains how his wife died as a result of him losing his health insurance. That right there should tell you who misrepresented the facts involved to a much larger extent and pulled on voters heartstrings at how evil rich old Mitt really was.

Then why don't you elaborate on just How Debbie Wasserman got on TV denied they had any affiliation with the ad or the people involved when the guy heading up the PAC was a former Obama staffer!

If you want to weigh the lies in politics why was this ad withdrawn so quickly when it was shown to be a total fabrication that the dems actually thought they could get away with. How does that series of complete misrepresentations stack up accordingly? The republicans aren't going to just let them create things anymore, because there's no limit to how far they will stretch the truth in their quest for power, how many guys they accused of not paying taxes, had affairs and got the blame for the deeds of this administrations lack of governance, and failure to get congressional approval on constitutional matters.

Piper it's time to put down the booze and get some help and face reality. When you don't have the capacity to distinguish who's fibbing worse, who's actually circumventing the constitution and ordering agencies of the federal government to commit illegal acts (without the power) and compromising every single Americans rights and future, you're too far gone to know otherwise.

Hell Reagen walked across the aisle and got more done with a minority in one year than Obama has done in four even with a majority. He's not a uniter he's an igniter and as volatile as they come and lacks the integrity to see that his actions have done more harm than good in our current situation. HIS PLAN IS ALL THAT MATTERS AND LAST I LOOKED THINGS WEREN'T MOVING IN A POSITIVE DIRECTION UNDER HIS ASTUTE LEADERSHIP. He's a minion of special interest groups and lacks an elementary understanding of how the economics works in his own country. How else can you explain not making economic decisions that actually benefit his people as opposed to those that limit their opportunity time after time. 23,000,000 unemployed yet with all those deep thinking activist's in his administration we can't seem to be able to find any paths to stimulate jobs?

What's that say about where they're focusing their efforts, yet we're working overtime promising free college educations, more welfare, immigrant social programs, dream acts (with no money to fund them), restricting our own oil industry, and other sources of energy. Then he's ordering that the auto industry need to be able to create a vehicle that gets more mileage than any vehicle produced today and we're going to fund a damn train in CA that they can't afford to help bail them out.

Then we're stimulating foreign companies and industries with billions upon tens of billions of our dollars ( many failed and we lost our money) that could be better spent at home benefitting our people and industry. WHY? Piper........ when you don't have the capacity to see who's really pulling the wool over your eyes you better not be sleeping on your belly! He's already got your wallet and given his liberal thoughts about other issues your virtue may be compromised just like your rights.
 
Boskee, Well said...Piper, the truth shall set you free!!!


Government doesn't fix anything and has spent trillions proving it!!!
Let's face it...After Monday and Tuesday, even the calender says WTF!
 
a staffer saying things or an ad from a superpac is one thing,but the nominee for VP should be honest,
Obama has increased federal spending less than any president since Eisenhower according to Forbs magazine, I don't doubt it. and Its foolhardy to think that the economy can bounce back after what went on during the Bush years, that stuff was devastating to the long term economic health of this country. It was a quick high with a long hangover.

The republicans cannot be delt with on most issues, its a game they have decided to play , nothing can be done about it, and as long as Grover Norquist controls the republicans, Simpson-Bowles nor any commission recomendation dealing with the debt cannot be approached.

So tell lies and make up stories like Its not important
 
And there you have it folks! There is absolutely no reasoning with idiots like Pipedope, even when you show them they are wrong they still believe their own Bullshyt. The sad thing is that there are millions of Pipers out there who would vote for Obama even if he had the hammer and sickle tattooed on his forehead.

No wonder you're a brick layer Piper, you're too stupid to be anything else.
 
>Nemont, Obamas"you didn't build that"
>was taken out of contex,
>and both of Romneys quotes
>were also.

Taken out of context. I read the entire speach. I guess piper if you say a lie enough times it becomes true.

You got the worse case of man love for obama of anyone I know.
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"A Liberal is a person who will give away everything he doesn't own." - Unknown
 
>>Nemont, Obamas"you didn't build that"
>>was taken out of contex,
>>and both of Romneys quotes
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>I guess piper if you
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LAST EDITED ON Aug-31-12 AT 02:35PM (MST)[p]Piper, 23,000,000 million peoeple don't have jobs or are underemployed and this President isn't building a pipeline that would create hundreds of thousands of jobs in multiple states. So why don't you show me who's really concerned about the American people here? The green lobby is shutting down huge blocks of land to access and causing small community's to lose jobs because of declining revenue. Businesses are failing at the fastest rate in US history. The tax base is eroding and teachers are losing their jobs because the states tax revenues are declining and they can't afford to keep them.

Piper this guy can't fathom that every single job in America is important and the trickle down effect of those losses is crippling this country. Piper if your company loses cash flow because people can't afford to build new projects or do improvements do you think it may effect you? Well Piper businesses aren't in an expansion mode right now because of unfavorable economic conditions. So when you find out the union isn't going to give you a job find comfort in knowing that your president was more concerned about selling books and saving the planet than he is about YOUR job. When the work slows down your union isn't going to pay your checks or give you a job, and your unemployment benefits will probably be for a much shorter duration because we can't afford to keep giving out money we don't have. Then it may dawn on you that maybe just maybe Obama is in over his head and civil rights, green legislation, and more restrictive hiring isn't going to help you find that job you need. You see by then, you may be one of just 28,000,000 ( notice it's going up Piper) other folks that fell for the crap........ so tell me how will things be looking then. Knowing that until most of those unemployed folks get back to work there won't be anyone building anything because every single home owner and business owner in America is going to be doing the same thing .......watching their pennies.

Part of this cycle is eliminating more jobs to avoid going out of business because with unemployment continuing to grow the cash flow just keeps declining...... TRICKLING DOWN UNTIL AT SOME POINT EVEN THOUGH THE DOORS ARE OPEN THERE'S NOBODY WALKING THRU THEM AND THOUSANDS MORE BUSINESS BECOME INSOLVENT AND UNEMPLOYMENT GOES UP AGAIN. See Piper trickle down economics does have some logic especially in a down cycle because expotentially it increases at a much faster rate since there are fewer dollars in the economy. Every single business in America is seeing their business drop as a result of the increasing unemployment and tens of thousands of more jobs are being lost daily.

So now Piper the wells are drying up all over and urban blight is spreading like wildfire and the moral decay of this once fine nation is escalating as people seek any means for survivial.... think it can't happen... Do the words Mr. Gorbachov tear down that wall resonate with you...... well economic collapse isn't too far off and when you owe your former enemies enormous sums of money one can only imagine what the cost of repayment will be.

We're already selling off large chunks of this country to foreign enterprises so financial collapse could only make things more attractive in a distressed or collapsed market. Now why don't you explain to me why it doesn't matter about those jobs.... because with the rate of business failures increasing you may be getting your paycheck from a Chinese Owner and don't worry about your right's, he's already got that worked out. The constitution will be amended or circumvented by the Obama administration to grant special powers to favorable employers since that's one of the ways we'll rely on to feed our people, in the Peoples Republic of America.
 
WOW- you are sure full of hot air, so
I guess its time to cash in our wilderness areas and start dumping toxic substances in the waterways because were broke? gotta love rightwingers.

Urban blight and moral decay?, I get a kick out of that,

I hate to tell you this but money doesn't grow on trees, contrary to rightwing belief, as it should be backed by real things, and don't worry Canadas pipeline will get built,

Economic collapse may come, and the rightwing is reason, Massive unaffordable tax cuts and heavy spending by the government created a wasteful bubble that finally collapsed and right on time just as many predicted.
I know the rightwing dream of turning towards Mexicos economic model by the selling of public land and more privatization may not be easy to come by, but cheer up boskee, the first step is already done.

Yes Boskee, we are watching our pennies, mostly because thats all we have
 
Piper it is you that is full of the B.S. hot air. In fact it is getting to the point that we can not tell if the hot air is coming from your mouth or you are farting in the wind.
Have you always been three bricks short of a load when it comes to intelligence and common sense?

RELH
 
Piper is just trolling. He is just trying to antagonize the people on the site.
He repeats the same crap over and over. He pores over Liberal blogs and websites to tell him what to think.
He latched onto the whole "Conservatives are modeling the US off of Mexico" because it was just so outrageous and it got a response.
He is trolling, he cant truly be that stupid.

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Margaret Thatcher: "The trouble with Socialism is, sooner or later you run out of other people's money."


"A Liberal is a person who will give away everything he doesn't own." - Unknown
 
The Mexico comparison is right on the money, I have noticed that for years. But yes Im trying to show many of you how you sound.

Look at some of the responses by rightwingers, "Obama is stealing from the rich and giving to the poor" He is this and that,ect ect.
Its always a lie , a total exaggeration or at best a half truth,
Obama makes plenty of mistakes no doubt, but most of you live in a fog far far from reality.
 
Your not bright enough to know how most of us live. So far you got a perfect record. You have been wrong about everything.


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Margaret Thatcher: "The trouble with Socialism is, sooner or later you run out of other people's money."


"A Liberal is a person who will give away everything he doesn't own." - Unknown
 
MNpaul your not worth responding to, your about as smart as forkedhorn and thats not saying much, come play when you learn some facts as your emotions don't make much sense.
 
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Margaret Thatcher: "The trouble with Socialism is, sooner or later you run out of other people's money."


"A Liberal is a person who will give away everything he doesn't own." - Unknown
 
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Margaret Thatcher: "The trouble with Socialism is, sooner or later you run out of other people's money."


"A Liberal is a person who will give away everything he doesn't own." - Unknown
 
I shouldnt have made any accusations about your family life, that wasn't good and I don't know about your family life. Of course you don't make accusations about people, do you?
 
LAST EDITED ON Aug-31-12 AT 09:48PM (MST)[p]>I shouldnt have made any accusations
>about your family life, that
>wasn't good and I
>don't know about your family
>life. Of course you don't
>make accusations about people, do
>you?

I will accept that as an apology. Some of the ugly comments I have made about you were nothing to be proud of, irregardless of what you had said to me.
Lets agree to be arch enemies still, but, less personal. :)

BTW, I have tried to delete some of my recent posts, but, system does not seem to be working.

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Margaret Thatcher: "The trouble with Socialism is, sooner or later you run out of other people's money."


"A Liberal is a person who will give away everything he doesn't own." - Unknown
 
Piper ever been to Detroit? If you had you'd understand what I'm talking about. When the jobs disappeared things went to hell in spite of welfare. Blacks, whites, latino's all left because of the blight and moral decay and the high crime rate. There are parts of Detroit where the cops won't patrol today. See piper when you can understand the magnitude of the issue then you can make a comparison of areas that have been influenced by the same factors we're seeing here. Loss of jobs and money increases moral decay look south of the border, see what fewer jobs buys you. So now we have two examples in two different countries that mirror the same effects of no jobs, no money and people scratching to get by by whatever means necessary. Drugs and other illegal activity run rampant in that type of scenario. Piper care to guess how many billions and billions of dollars were pumped into Detroit by the Democrats? Then end result was the same no jobs and economic collapse and that was in good times Piper.

Then Piper look at what caused the fall of the Soviet Union. One of the most powerful countries in the world got disassembled because their economy crashed coupled with a few other mitigating factors that led to insolvency. So while you are foolish enough to believe it can't happen here it already has in Detroit and in Mexico. Mexico is creating jobs at a faster pace than we are because of their favorable labor rates. So how is avoiding the creation of jobs helping you Piper?

Piper if you're watching your pennies maybe you should seriously consider the other option, you know the one that creates jobs and turns those pennies into dollars in your wallet. More jobs= more pennies which converts to more $$$$ no matter what party you're in but your guys can't seem to fathom that basic concept. I know it's hard for Obama to fathom that when he hasn't run a business and only been involved in activism and lived off the taxpayers, but surely you're smart enough to know the difference aren't you? Maybe that's why your pockets only jingle since Obama took all your residual geenbacks and left you "THE CHANGE"!

Piper if you're not wise enough to control your destiny then in the end you'll be blaming everyone else for your shortcomings kind of sounds like Obama doesn't it. I have another question for you, why would you support a candidate & party that extended the welfare duration on individuals fully capable of working but choose to have you support them because your candidate allows it? If you're going to get pizzed it would seem that your own party has taken advantage of you far worse than any Republican by allowing millions of people to abuse you for nothing other than pandering for their vote.

How does it feel to know that your party wants to extend the offer to millions more immigrants too just to keep you working longer. You think I'm misguided well Piper what's that make you...... by the way Piper keep on pulling that plow your fellow democrats are having fun gambling with those checks while you're paying them. Here's a little more hot air for you to think about: that scenario will repeat itself, every time you bend over, pick up a block and throw down a trowel of mud to lay that block, every single working hour of every day until you retire..... at 70+.
 
Why don't you enlighted us on what the republicans have done to make things better, skip what they've said lets get to what they've done.


I think you guys enjoy your kool aid even though you know it's been peed in.
















Stay thirsty my friends
 
Since you brought it up, why don't you enlighten us that way you can have equal time. In your remarks please address why your party funds groups thru grants that sue the states and the feds to get tax dollars to promote their agenda. There's only specific types of legislation that allows for them to sue the feds to receive a settlement. Then address how many billions the US Taxpayers have paid ( actually bilked out of) to fund these cases. Then enlighten us on why the democratic party would be so supportive of litigation costing the US taxpayers money for settlements and then fund grants grants to be made to fund the overhead of these litigation firms and advocacy groups to sue us. Why do they use taxpayer dollars to fund entity's to sue us, only to allow them to collect damages from the same taxpayers that funded the initial lawsuit? Then tell us how many of these lawsuits were filed under the Obama administration as opposed to previous Republican administrations ( broken down by each administration). Pay specific attention to civil cases and EPA & ESA cases (that should help you) and those areas should be enough to see how this administration plays it's little ruse on the American people.
 
Who said the democrats are my party or I'm able to defend them. you are the one crying about them so you tell us what YOUR party has done and will do better. I'm under no illusion the liberals are the answer, as you are the conservatives are.


If one is no better than call a spade a spade and knock off this divisive rhetoric it's childish.














Stay thirsty my friends
 
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I knew you would say that.LOL
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Margaret Thatcher: "The trouble with Socialism is, sooner or later you run out of other people's money."


"A Liberal is a person who will give away everything he doesn't own." - Unknown
 
Sorry dude you want to play but yet you don't want to expend any effort. You didn't get to where you are today by that mantra.

You called me out so post up why I'm wrong or could it be you know I'm right. I think it's the latter.
 
I just told you, the libs don't hold the answers . so you tell me how the conservatives do and why they haven't worked.

I have a problem with both idealogies because they don't work. we can't be santa to everyone and have unconditional love in every home and nation, but it's a nice thought. on the other hand we can't kill everyone who's the wrong color, religion or income level and rule the world from our lofty perch as the chosen ones.

There is a thing called reality and it falls on middle ground, that's why I'm a moderate. if we had far left whackos on here like our far right whackos I'd be a screaming conservative in their eyes.

The fact I find Romney acceptable should scare you if I'm actually a liberal. I can't lose, you can't win. it's all good.













Stay thirsty my friends
 
It doesn't scare me at all because I've always respected your viewpoint and know that you're intelligent enough to sort out what you favor and don't. But unless people like us and quite a few others on here point out what's wrong currently how are we going to fix anything. We have our rights being challenged in multiple states on multiple issues like never before in our nations history. The argument that the courts are there to sort it out only works in some instances as you know and works as a deterrent in many other instances. We have many challenges in front of us and the current administration's behavior to circumvent congress and legislate through the courts is only opening up a bigger can of worms. The executive branch has limited powers and not the carte blanche to keep going around congress. Where does it state and where did Congress authorize or grant, the Homeland Security Director has more power than the President or Congress to violate our constitution regarding immigration laws?

By the way did you happen to see that the Feds had to drop the case & charges against Sheriff Arpaio for enforcing immigration laws? Funny how they couldn't find proof enough to substantiate the claims after several years and millions spent and had to drop their case. All those negative articles, hundreds and hundreds of them and I'll bet you we don't hear much about this after 24 hours... so much for our unbiased press.

Wonder how much traction that little case the ICE agents filed against Napolitano will garner for them being ordered not to do their job!! Up until now it's been pretty hush hush doesn't that seem odd? Why didn't they play the video of the press conferences on TV for all Americans to see what was going on?

Then we have FAST and FURIOUS (still not dead) and uncovering & revealing more complicity within our government as the investigation moves forward. Where is all the press coverage on the latest reports and who it implicates? Kind of funny how a little sheriff gets so much coverage, hours and hours of stories for his alleged infractions on all news casts yet we're not hearing anything about the deaths of 290+ people and federal agents where our Government could be liable.

See 440 until this year I haven't posted too much on the political forum. But I can't sit here and allow the rape to go on. Funny thing is even though we don't agree on everything we still manage to look out for the other guys rights but Mr. Obama & his administration and his agenda has other plans for both of us and that's where I draw the line. When he looked past taking care of the people that elected him & our rights so frequently, that's when I knew other voices needed to be heard.

We all know he alone didn't create this mess but he didn't focus on resolving things in a manner better suited for the welfare of the American people and that's where he lost my support. Take care of yourself and I hope you got everything harvested Ok.
 
Boskee--Obama didn't create this mess alone? thats a laugh, he had very little to do with it. You need your memory refreshed I guess. This mess has been looming in the background since the voodo economic days of Reagan,, Remember Cheneys quip about "deficits don't matter, Reagan proved that"?

Just follow the spending sprees, the tax cutting sprees, and how they ignored reality, all republicans except Clinton.

There are little things and there are big things, you dwell on the little things, and don't tell me how all the little things add up, it doesn't work that way on this one, the mess is too large and its been coming for more than 30 years.
 
Yes it's been years in the making, it's just starting to hit the fan.

Why is Obama's immigration plan any different than Reagans amnesty plan? and I'm not sure everything you say Obama is doing unconstitutional is so. until the supreme court rules that's just your opinion, and so far obama is winning that battle.


I'm not happy with lots of Obama's plans but answer this, is Romney going to deport the wetbacks, end welfare, stop health care for those with no money and reduce the debt? if not then where is my reason to expect the change from another old white guy I didn't see from the black one?












Stay thirsty my friends
 
I think you'll have to look at the current body of work by the individual serving. Just like any job we're evaluated on our performance on the job not the performance for all the other guys that preceded us. He's had ample time to lay the foundation for his plan to solve the issues. If he's done his job to the American people's satisfaction they will reelect him if not he'll see the change he promised to bring. Since Obama like any employee has the job now, it's up to him to act in the best interests of the people that he serves. He's a hired servant and as such is put in office by the will of his constituents.

We'll see how his constituents like much higher fuel prices, increasing unemployment, dwindling savings, higher food oosts, fewer jobs than when he took office, failed businesses on an epic scale, and the boundless opportunity his administration has provided.
 
How much of our current crisis is controlled by forces outside the US ? we used to be the world economy now we're just a player. I'd like to know how Romney will " fix " the world economy that controls ours.


You expect Obama to do things beyond his control, the only way I can prove this is for Romney to be elected. I'll remind you of it when we're not all rich and the debt isn't paid off in a few years if he is.





Stay thirsty my friends
 
LAST EDITED ON Sep-02-12 AT 11:06AM (MST)[p]440 Stop giving him a get out of jail card..... there's 23,000,000 million reasons why that perspective clearly doesn't work and that figure will be going up not down, based on his performance! A lot of those people lost their jobs 2 years after he became president.


The world order & economy isn't going to fix our issues only WE can fix our issues, in fact the fact that we have issues enriches them on multiple fronts. He very clearly doesn't have a plan to fix anything and yet you want to let him off the hook.

He's had 4 years to come up with a plan and there clearly still isn't one, except pandering for votes. What is his plan and why aren't we hearing about it???? It's like the budget ... there isn't one. Seems like it's way more important than Romney's taxes, dog carrier or Ryan's marathon time? Why isn't he talking about it, instead of waiting for the other guy to mention something and discredit him.... He's the one in office where's his success stories and plan???

No corporation in America would tolerate that kind of performance let alone the largest country in the world. His inexperience is his biggest liability and while he may have had the best intentions he clearly doesn't have the capacity to come up with a plan.

You can't fix the issue when you can't comprehend the issues.

Sorry 440 but failure is failure and while he didn't create all of it he & his high powered administration of activist's can't figure out a way stop the bleeding. But that hasn't deterred them from creating more on the streets has it? protests, racial bias, cops abuse, union protests, employer discrimination, immigrant issues, illegal police searches, white hate crimes, latino hate crimes, white hate crimes, black crimes, voter id issues, occupy movements, civil unrest and injustice.... MY MY all of those things certainly WON"T fix our economic issues will they, but they'll certainly divert our focus from the real issues ... wonder if there's a correlation there..... Maybe if we had more jobs there'd be less civil unrest..... hmmm wonder if there's a correlation there.....
 
The polls don't show the majority agree with you.

We are a player and a dependant in the world economy, this didn't start and it won't end with obama. Romney can't just sell us off and outsource us , so you confidence in him may be misplaced.

Once again, I'm not saying Obama is doing well I'm saying Romney is subject to the same reality once the campaign ends and the real world begins. I'm going to have a million chances to say I told you so if Romney pulls it off.









Stay thirsty my friends
 
boskee- Did you watch meet the press this morning? I thought the round table was pretty well rounded, and there were some good discussions.

Thomas Friedman pretty well got it right when he said Romney has a math problem. Cutting taxes for the wealthy, abolishing any inheritance tax, and spending more on the military whether they need it or not, thats gonna really help with the budget deficit, and then of course
Romney wants to get rid of the healthcare bill, telling 20+ million people that they will not be able to afford health insurance will be nice, A real good guy old Mitt must be.

Ever hear of instant gratification?, thats what gets people in trouble, parents should teach their kids about the dangers of wanting instant gratification, how nothing is free and how somebody has to pay for things, did you ever think about that? and about what you and your political party have been promoting for years? tax cuts to pay for wars, tax cuts when your depressed, tax cuts when your happy, and of course lots and lots of spending in between.
 
Piper did you ever stop to think that just maybe Thomas Friedman may be a shade bias and blowing smoke for idiots like you to cling to!
Is "Meet the Press" a unbiased news program? Somehow I think it is slanted to the liberal point of view.

Bottom line, Obama is a proven failure on just about all of his promises and you will never be able to get away from that fact. It's time to try someone else and see if they can improve where Obama has failed. Just good old common sense will tell you that. That is if you have a lick of sense left in you!!!

RELH
 
I love it, FAUX watchers saying someone is biased.
















Stay thirsty my friends
 
You just keep watching your fairly unbalanced TV and drinking kool aid . thinking is hard and leads to no good, Rupert will tell you what to do.







Stay thirsty my friends
 

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