We used the 285 grain tmz with the yellow sabots on our elk hunt this year with 150 grains of triple seven pellets. First they shot great, with our 3-shot groups touching. Secondly, performed great on both our bulls as we each killed a mature bull and the tmz's hammered each bull and they went down quickly. Lastly, the 285 grain/150gr combo had the most energy at 200 yards per any publishing balistic data I could find anywhere. So, per our experinece the Barnes TMZ bullets are the best we have ever used!
J Legend