Gator, I just bought the outfitter tent from Cabelas. I used one a couple weeks ago and they are the new military fabric, has the same tent stove hole rain fly etc of most of the canvas wall tents but can be set up by one guy in 20-30 minutes. Anyway based on the advice of Duwane Adams, I bought this tent and he bought 4 of them. He is getting rid of his canvas tents and switching to these. Maybe take a look at these and see what you think. The tents list for 800.00 in cabelas but they have an outfitter program that allowed me to get the tent for 600.00 plus 25.00 shipping including poles etc.......... Thanks, Allen Taylor......