me and my buddy went out on the utah general rifle hunt the other day to try to get him a buck. he has hunted hard and hasnt seen anything worth taking. i took him to one of my favorite spots and we set out to do a 3 or 4 mile hike. we came into a draw and jumped a monster buck. i mean it was a real nice buck. it was walking away from us and it wasnt really to conserned my friend was about to shoot and i told him to wait. we didnt have an ethical shot. and it was heading into a patch to cedars and then it would have to come out on the other side and we could have a chance at a better shot so we set up and waited. it came out on the other side and still had his but towards us looking at us for close to 5 minutes. what happens next i couldnt believe a hunter had hiked the ridge and was behind us. and too a 400 yard shot at the animal and he had the same angle we did. he hit it in the butt even though it went down quick i couldnt be more unhappy. a 400 butt shot? it makes me wish we would have taken when we could have. we walked up with the guy and he measured 31 wide and had 5 on one side and 4 on the easily being a 185-195 inch buck.. when i commented to the hunter about his shot he said well it brought him down did it not? i think that this is bull