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LAST EDITED ON May-10-19
>AT 05:20?PM (MST)
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>>Hoss, lets see... the earth is
>>at least 4 1/2 billion
>>years old.how many times did
>>we have extinction of spieces?
>>
>>So what the hell does bark
>>beetles and aspens have to
>>do with the decline of
>>elk in Idaho?
>
>You do realize there is a
>ton of research on elk
>habitat that specifically centers on
>deadfall caused by bark beetle,
>right?
>
>I know. To some guys
>if you accept anything other
>than "good" "bad" its mind
>blowing.
>
>Is there any possibility, that PRE
>WHITE MAN, there were crap
>tons of elk, and crap
>tons of wolves? I
>can't wait to hear how
>that is even remotely possible,
>because as we all know
>"wolves have mystical powers" and
>create deserts wherever they are
>found.
>
>Sooooo? How did we have
>the vastness of species that
>early explorers wrote about yet
>have wolves on the landscape.
>
>
>Next. Look at the population
>numbers of wolves as the
>elk population crashed in Idaho,
>THEN DO THE MATH and
>figure out how much each
>wolf had to eat to
>make that possible.
>
>Perhaps, just perhaps, 2 things can
>be happening at the same
>time? Or are we
>all to believe 150 or
>so wolves ate 15000 elk
>in a few years?
>How big are those dogs?
>
>
>I know, I know. Dudes
>are finding dead bulls WHILE
>HUNTING WOLVES. Guess no
>one should point out that
>perhaps, JUST MAYBE, mature bull
>elk go into winter exhausted,
>skinny, wore out, and either
>make easy prey, OR COULD
>HAVE DIED AND BEEN SCAVENGED?
>
>
>Again, perspective. Were these same
>wolf hunters covering ground all
>winter PRIOR TO WOLF HUNTING
>so they have some baseline
>for comparison? Or did
>nature, the elk rut, early
>winter, etc only start the
>same day dudes started hunting
>wolves?
>
>Now. Does that mean that
>a population that is down,
>cant be kept down because
>of wolves. ABSOLUTELY, apex
>predators can and do that.
> But the same is
>true of both types of
>bears in Idaho that are
>population killers on newborn calves.
> Idaho had any increases
>in hear numbers?
>
>Last. Since you decided to
>be a smart azz.
>Go crack a book on
>the effects of climate in
>regards to the estrus cycle
>in cows. Seems there
>could be evidence to suggest
>that extremes(drought specifically) mess with
>cycles. MEANING. Calves
>born too late in the
>season to survive their first
>year. Calf births being
>less concentrated in birth dates(spreading
>out calves to he eaten
>over a longer period giving
>bears especially a chance to
>predate on them before they
>are mobile). Both lead
>to population decreases, BECAUSE BULLS
>DONT HAVE CALVES, so only
>female elk can increase populations.
> If those females become
>bear/wolf/cat/coyote/eagle crap before they breed,
>NO NEW CALVES NEXT YEAR.
>
>
>I know. Its much easier
>to have bumper sticker answers.
> But wolves, their effect
>on prey, and the interweaving
>of climate change in that
>relationship, don't fit on a
>sticker.
>
>But I agree with all.
>I don't like them being
>"introduced".
>
>"I don't care if the season
>is closed. Get off your
>butt and go hunt them"
>
>
>TRISTATE
>3/11/19
>
>From the party of HUNTIN, FISHIN,
>PUBLIC LAND.
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