BigFin
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Well, the injunction ordered by Judge Malloy, to temporarily restore ESA protection to wolves,really sucks, but it is not the end. It is merely an injunction that restores ESA protection while the case is decided. Such injunctions are common while cases are being decided.
The Federal court system will have to hear the case in its entirety, meanwhile, the state plans are put on hold and the ESA continues to rule the day.
Two points in the injunction decision will be very relevant in the final decision of the case.
1. Genetic isolation
2. Wyoming?s plan
The genetic isolation issue is taking care of itself in my home state of MT. We have wolves in the NW population moving south and wolves in the Yellowstone population moving north.
Given the emphasis the judge has place on this aspect of the recovery plan, I suspect MT FWP will be doing much to record the DNA of the wolves showing up in these new places. If they aren't, hunter groups will be on them to do so.
The bigger problem is the fact that the MT, ID, and WY plans are all being considered as one. A tactic that the enviros have used from the start. We now know the judge find many problems with the WY plan, even though I like it.
WY should be allowed to develop whatever plan they damn well want. As should MT and ID. Each plan should reflect the perspectives of the citizens of each state.
As much as I don't want to see a divide and conquer approach, I surely don't like the ?treat ?em all as one? approach that causes the plan of one state to sink the plans of all the states.
Don?t be surprised if hunters in MT come together and ask FWP to petition for a delisting ruling solely for MT. The enviros would hate that, as they would lose any grounds based on the judges dislike of the WY plan, and they know that in the last two years, MT has had a lot of genetic mixing, it just has not been documented in a scientific study.
WY is going to have to decide what they are going to do with their plan. I hope they fight the Feds and prevail. Yet, in the interim, I am not enthused about the WY plan causing MT to lose its opportunity to manage the wolves in MT under a plan devised by MT citizens.
The injuction sucks all the way around, but if the USFWS can prevail in the full hearing that they have adequately addressed the genetic isolation issues, the only pending issue will be the WY plan. If so, WY will be on an island, putting them in a very hard spot.
I hope you don't think I am being selfish and unreasonable for taking the position that I want each state to be decided individually. The enviros don't want that, as they know that once the genetic isolation question is solved, they will lose any fight based on the MT plan, and most likely lose on the ID plan.
I support WY, and whatever plan they stick to or change to. But, I want the fight about wolves living in my state, to be based on the plan that was developed in my state, and will be implemented in my state.
Genetic isolation can be fixed, and now that agencies know the courts are looking so closely at such, they can quickly start to monitor genetic diversity. If we need to, we can capture wolves in one area and swap them for wolves in the other area.
If the final case is decided on these two factors, it will just be a matter of time before we prevail.
I am sure the enviros hope the final decision brings up many more points than just the genetics and WY plan problems. If the final decision sticks with those two points, they can be addressed, and if one of the two points is removed in the final decision, the enviros will be worried chitless, which would make me smile.
Happy Hunting!
"Hunt when you can - You're gonna' run out of health before you run out of money!"
The Federal court system will have to hear the case in its entirety, meanwhile, the state plans are put on hold and the ESA continues to rule the day.
Two points in the injunction decision will be very relevant in the final decision of the case.
1. Genetic isolation
2. Wyoming?s plan
The genetic isolation issue is taking care of itself in my home state of MT. We have wolves in the NW population moving south and wolves in the Yellowstone population moving north.
Given the emphasis the judge has place on this aspect of the recovery plan, I suspect MT FWP will be doing much to record the DNA of the wolves showing up in these new places. If they aren't, hunter groups will be on them to do so.
The bigger problem is the fact that the MT, ID, and WY plans are all being considered as one. A tactic that the enviros have used from the start. We now know the judge find many problems with the WY plan, even though I like it.
WY should be allowed to develop whatever plan they damn well want. As should MT and ID. Each plan should reflect the perspectives of the citizens of each state.
As much as I don't want to see a divide and conquer approach, I surely don't like the ?treat ?em all as one? approach that causes the plan of one state to sink the plans of all the states.
Don?t be surprised if hunters in MT come together and ask FWP to petition for a delisting ruling solely for MT. The enviros would hate that, as they would lose any grounds based on the judges dislike of the WY plan, and they know that in the last two years, MT has had a lot of genetic mixing, it just has not been documented in a scientific study.
WY is going to have to decide what they are going to do with their plan. I hope they fight the Feds and prevail. Yet, in the interim, I am not enthused about the WY plan causing MT to lose its opportunity to manage the wolves in MT under a plan devised by MT citizens.
The injuction sucks all the way around, but if the USFWS can prevail in the full hearing that they have adequately addressed the genetic isolation issues, the only pending issue will be the WY plan. If so, WY will be on an island, putting them in a very hard spot.
I hope you don't think I am being selfish and unreasonable for taking the position that I want each state to be decided individually. The enviros don't want that, as they know that once the genetic isolation question is solved, they will lose any fight based on the MT plan, and most likely lose on the ID plan.
I support WY, and whatever plan they stick to or change to. But, I want the fight about wolves living in my state, to be based on the plan that was developed in my state, and will be implemented in my state.
Genetic isolation can be fixed, and now that agencies know the courts are looking so closely at such, they can quickly start to monitor genetic diversity. If we need to, we can capture wolves in one area and swap them for wolves in the other area.
If the final case is decided on these two factors, it will just be a matter of time before we prevail.
I am sure the enviros hope the final decision brings up many more points than just the genetics and WY plan problems. If the final decision sticks with those two points, they can be addressed, and if one of the two points is removed in the final decision, the enviros will be worried chitless, which would make me smile.
Happy Hunting!
"Hunt when you can - You're gonna' run out of health before you run out of money!"