Rather than 90/5/5 - what about 90/10 and increasing NR Regular tag fees (say by 25%)...and then that extra pool of money is handed out as cash/welfare to outfitters? This puts guaranteed/no risk money in outfitters pockets (which is what they want), protects NR DIY hunters by keeping all available NR tags open to all NRs, and gets R's their 90%.
I don’t think a lot of NR think poorly of residents. I think there is a lot of frustration on what is going on in ALL states now. NR have supported WY wildlife for many years planning for future hunts that are no longer going to be available or within reach. Actually I read some resident comments as basically a F…You to Non Residents.
I also don't think that a lot of NR think poorly of Residents, they just have a misguided entitlement to Wyoming's wildlife. I don't think Residents think poorly of NR hunters either, they just care more (rightfully so) about Resident opportunity.
Hmmmmm. 2016 whining from Buzz when New Mexico changed their system:
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I have changed my mind, lots of NRs make it easier all the time. Less opportunity for residents, less resource to go around, and actions, or lack there of, from surrounding states directed at me as a NR. I'm done fighting for the ungrateful...Buzz in 2021:
"I'm 100% opposed to outfitter set asides, just corporate welfare in its purest form, and outfitters put ZERO money into GF agency management."
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Ok where does the other 36% of revenue come from? Lets not also forget about the WWNRT, WGBLC, Commission Licenses, NGO support that also funds wildlife in Wyoming. There's more to it than just the GF budget, and its residents either funding a lions share of those, or giving up our opportunity...
Not trying to put you on the spot here and I understand people change their minds, but this is definitely a 180.
So did you call Sy and secure your deal that you said he wanted and was just waiting for your jingle? Or are you going to give all the "whiners" another chance to conform to your way of thinking before you confiscate 10% of the tags?
How did Colorado end up on your list? We are by far the most generous state when it comes to Nonresident hunting.
I understand and respect 90/10, but not outfitter set aside.
Git ‘er done!
For sheep, moose, and goat?
If you really believe the Residents have no pull with the legislature and can't make the changes, then I reckon you have nothing to worry about.So did you call Sy and secure your deal that you said he wanted and was just waiting for your jingle? Or are you going to give all the "whiners" another chance to conform to your way of thinking before you confiscate 10% of the tags?
I'm just screwing with you because of your bold threat in this thread. It ain't often we get to see someone threaten to make such big changes in wildlife management in a state because they personally are mad at a few people on the internet. It's entertainment for sure!
I'm excited to see if I'll be hailing you as "Mr. Wyoming Wildlife", or "Empty Threat Buzz".
Just out of curiosity, how could all the "whiners" win you over? Should they send money? Flowers? Offer you free hunts? Hot chicks? Or just apologize to you every moment they get? What's it going to take in case there's a few out there who want to make you happy?
It has nothing to do with whether residents have pull to make changes, they do. But I don’t think they want to go as far as you do and give outfitters set aside tags. That’s just wrong. You’ve gone extreme!
Seems you're doing most of the talking...
Ok Buzz, let us know when you’ve dished out your punishment to NR whiners.
I believe we already have, wouldn't you agree?
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You have more influence not being on the committee and they can't leave you off if you don't apply. I don't have the time and don't like being hamstrung from operating in a meaningful way. I have other obligations and others to represent and its tough to navigate serving on a task force or committee at the same time.
Did you apply for elk in Wyoming this year?
I think this proposal and thread is way at odds with what BHA stands for even if they don't put DIY in their core mission statement, they have it listed all over their website and have links to DIY Western Hunting Summit for people to plan western adventures. Seems quite at odds. Seems like Buzz should probably step down from BHA in order to push this through. Might have to drop my membership if this goes through and Buzz stays on the board.
Big changes came and big changes are coming and the NR hunters don't like them as much as the residents want us to (actually they don't care what we like) and they think we should simply not be expressing our opinion on Wyoming matters.
Mr. Potato head is just the local blowhard. When he gets bored alone in his basement and has had to many drinks, he shows off his super hero strengths.
Do what you feel is best, but expanding opportunities for Resident hunters is way more critical than your NR sheep tag.
The WY BHA has pretty much shown to be a bunch of big talkin' little doin' flat brimmers. Quite a few public land access isues have been brought to their attention....with most being responded to with crickets. The dirty little secret about the Elk Mountain corner crossing simply because some of the BHA higher ups personally were invested. Otherwise, this group is not much more then pint nights yahoos
Opinions vary.
Who wants to go to Utah where all the men are fit for sucking golf balls through a garden hose.
Who knows why anyone would go there.....
I disagree, my wife has said on several occasions over 35+ years, that I am indeed a complete "azz".
I have said I understand and respect you going for 90/10, but 90/5/5 is way out of.bounds for what BHA has supported and what you have said in the past. I truly think you are a bit at odds here supporting outfitters and being on the board of BHA. It takes away opportunity from people that cannot afford an outfitter, agreed?
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Going to explain this one time, and that will be the end of it.
I respect that in principle. Did BHA vote on any of these topics under discussion?
This morning BHA made a solid effort supporting sportsman and using public land. (HB147). It moved forward. 5-0
Not sure if there is private on the other side of the guard.
While confusing it is not hard to figure out those signs mean for the land beside the road, not the road.
That's the business of our board...thanks for asking.
I agree in most cases it is easy, but not all. I have turned around many times not wanting the headache of dealing with the landowner or law enforcement. Probably why they post the roadway. They should post the private land that parallels the roadway.
A little side track, but if you look you'll see the fence goes to the cattle guard in most cases, they are simply posting were their lands starts in relation to those who travel down the road.
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We focus on trophy elk, mule deer, antelope and moose hunts and take B&C bucks most years.
