AspenAdventures
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A lot of guys have been saying Wyoming Region G is not as bad as a Utah General Deer hunt and when I made that claim they got really defensive and asked for proof.
In Utah this year in a general unit I saw some awesome bucks. Within 45 minutes of downtown Salt Lake. In region G I had to ride into the back country to get to some bucks.
This guy wrote up a great post. He was able to hunt Idaho (supposedly worse than Utah) and got a great buck. Utah general tag...great buck...saw lots of bucks... Wyoming...nada ... said 0 bucks in a basin there had been 37 just last year. Then he hunted Montana. Got a great buck. Montana, known for horrible deer hunting, small bucks, liberal rut hunting....did better than Wyoming region H.
So, not only was Wyoming region H worse than Utah general tags but it was worse than Idaho and Montana.
This is the experience I had in Wyoming. You can pass laws and say you want access over quality. And you will likely get exactly what you want....access....and lower...or little quality. Like you have now.
Utards have great hunting. My boy took his first buck this year. Right behind my home here in St George we can drive up the road and grab a 25" buck off the wheeler. I just went out on the winter range behind town, I just moved here, and it was CRAZY with deer. In one morning I saw over 200 deer and 60 or so were bucks with at least 7 of those being HOGS. This is a general unit in Utah.
You can say your stats are good. But people are experiencing something different. Founder hit it hard and usually comes up with great bucks...he did...but not like years past. He took a 190 4 point....in my opinion his Colorado buck was better this year. The guy posted above said it was tough. Rob Wileys bucks look pretty bad compared to years past. Two other outfitters who usually post bucks up have not posted this last years harvest....I assume because it would look bad on their site.
Regardless, I am putting in this year and drawing a tag for G. Why, because I am afraid it is going to get worse before it gets better. There will come a moment when you are on your knees wishing it was better. I am surprised you arent there yet. I have two weeks to hunt, a wall tent, a wood burning stove, and 4 good horses with 5 buds willing to come spot bucks. We will get our buck. And, that is actually what I am afraid of. You cant afford to lose many more at the rate you are. People are coming to your state. And telling you what it is like for them to hunt. Listen to them...or not.
I have no other interest in game other than making sure we can all hunt big bucks as often as possible. I am in my 40's. If it turns into something I can only get every 10 years I will be heart broken as the high country of Wyoming is breathtaking and the dozen or so Wyoming residents suck my hard earned tax dollars down to maintain their Federal Land since their local tax base would never be able to support their lands. My dollars paying for the land. My tag paying for the management. I think I have payed for the right to have an opinion on Wyoming deer.
You can turn a blind eye ..... but you cant run from the fact your herd is hurting big time.
"The penalty good men pay for indifference to public affairs is to be ruled by evil men." - Plato
In Utah this year in a general unit I saw some awesome bucks. Within 45 minutes of downtown Salt Lake. In region G I had to ride into the back country to get to some bucks.
This guy wrote up a great post. He was able to hunt Idaho (supposedly worse than Utah) and got a great buck. Utah general tag...great buck...saw lots of bucks... Wyoming...nada ... said 0 bucks in a basin there had been 37 just last year. Then he hunted Montana. Got a great buck. Montana, known for horrible deer hunting, small bucks, liberal rut hunting....did better than Wyoming region H.
So, not only was Wyoming region H worse than Utah general tags but it was worse than Idaho and Montana.
This is the experience I had in Wyoming. You can pass laws and say you want access over quality. And you will likely get exactly what you want....access....and lower...or little quality. Like you have now.
Utards have great hunting. My boy took his first buck this year. Right behind my home here in St George we can drive up the road and grab a 25" buck off the wheeler. I just went out on the winter range behind town, I just moved here, and it was CRAZY with deer. In one morning I saw over 200 deer and 60 or so were bucks with at least 7 of those being HOGS. This is a general unit in Utah.
You can say your stats are good. But people are experiencing something different. Founder hit it hard and usually comes up with great bucks...he did...but not like years past. He took a 190 4 point....in my opinion his Colorado buck was better this year. The guy posted above said it was tough. Rob Wileys bucks look pretty bad compared to years past. Two other outfitters who usually post bucks up have not posted this last years harvest....I assume because it would look bad on their site.
Regardless, I am putting in this year and drawing a tag for G. Why, because I am afraid it is going to get worse before it gets better. There will come a moment when you are on your knees wishing it was better. I am surprised you arent there yet. I have two weeks to hunt, a wall tent, a wood burning stove, and 4 good horses with 5 buds willing to come spot bucks. We will get our buck. And, that is actually what I am afraid of. You cant afford to lose many more at the rate you are. People are coming to your state. And telling you what it is like for them to hunt. Listen to them...or not.
I have no other interest in game other than making sure we can all hunt big bucks as often as possible. I am in my 40's. If it turns into something I can only get every 10 years I will be heart broken as the high country of Wyoming is breathtaking and the dozen or so Wyoming residents suck my hard earned tax dollars down to maintain their Federal Land since their local tax base would never be able to support their lands. My dollars paying for the land. My tag paying for the management. I think I have payed for the right to have an opinion on Wyoming deer.
You can turn a blind eye ..... but you cant run from the fact your herd is hurting big time.
"The penalty good men pay for indifference to public affairs is to be ruled by evil men." - Plato