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Hey guys, I used to be active on this with a different username (long since de-activated) site years ago when I was living in ID and Utah during and soon after college. I have since moved away and spent the last 7 years elsewhere in the West.

Well I have an opportunity to go to Boise for work with a decent job. I have not spent much time in Boise, always lived in Eastern ID. I am interested to hear from some of you locals on how it compares with hunting and fishing opportunity and quality, particularly for kids (my boys are 8 and 9 right now). Does it feel like a big city? One of the things I really like about Idaho is that it was always a smaller town, but I am not sure it will feel that way in Nampa/Meridian/Boise.

Any thoughts are much appreciated and good luck to everyone with whats left of the fall.
 
Boise is very big, heavily populated, square miles of cement and assholes, and very busy all day and week long. That said, there is plenty of good hunting and fishing relatively close and you can learn it pretty quick. If you are willing to drive 1-2 hours, then you get away from most of the people. In three you can get to one of the largest wilderness in the lower 48. After 4 hours, you're back in your old stomping grounds with past friends. What more could you ask for????
 
Grew up in Southwest Boise, it has changed so much in in the last 10-15 years. Currently live in Meridian, wife and I are looking to get out of Ada county within the next couple years. Good hunting and fishing aren't too far, but Boise is becoming just like every other big city.
 
I live and work in Ada County and spend 30 minutes commuting 10 mi to downtown every AM.

I've lived in other big cities and as "big" cities go this is a great place to live. My kids went to Eagle Middle and High schools and they were great for academics, sports, and not quite the level of big town issues as I had growing up.

If you can live in the Treasure Valley(Ada/Canyon)county, but not work downtown, then great. If you can handle 30-45 min commute, then you can get away from the big town feel in Kuna, Star, Middleton, Nampa, Caldwell, or even Emmett, Horseshoe Bend, and Idaho City.

From here you are a day trip away from literally every kind of freshwater fishing and bird hunting there is in the west. You are very close to good mule deer, elk, bear, wolf, and antelope, and can do easy weekend trips for Moose, Sheep, and Goats if you get lucky enough to draw. N Idaho is really good for WT's, starting about 3.5 hours away.

If your wife and family like movies, shopping, BSU football, etc, then this is a great option. If you prefer quiet and spending all you free time in the woods, then maybe a little more rural is better.

Wife and I go back and forth on how much more rural we would like to be once work doesn't dictate and we really go back and forth. Bought a second home in Cascade(1.5hrs N), which we get away to as often as possible and this brings us a happy balance.
 
It's a pretty good place to live, especially if you need a larger city for work. It's growing quickly, I've lived in the Treasure Valley all my life. There is some pretty good hunting with-in a couple hours of the city. As other's stated, the farther you go, the less crowded it is.
 
Thanks for the input guys. The office we are looking at would be on Eagle road near St Luke?s. Is it reasonable live in Emmett or somewhere else and have a commute that's about 30 minutes?

I'd really like to not be in a suburb which is what Meridian feels like to me.
 
LAST EDITED ON Nov-22-17 AT 01:49PM (MST)[p]LAST EDITED ON Nov-22-17 AT 01:44?PM (MST)

A cousin of mine did something similar though his drive was a bit further than yours would be.They moved to Emmett and he worked at the St. Als on Curtis in Boise. He did it for about 8 years, the drive finally got to him and they just built a new place overlooking lake Lowell in S Nampa. Take it from someone who's lived in Meridian for over 15 years, you are right it's turned into one big traffic jam/suburbia at it's finest. The Treasure Valley is not currently close to Denver or Phoenix, or even greater SLC, but it's headed that way...
 
Look at Kuna and maybe E Nampa for more rural living. Still close to town on weekends. Get more land for less $$.
 
Boise and the entire valley has changed significantly in the past few years. It is rapidly becoming nothing but another socialist cesspool. A couple years back the Capital removed the state flags that had stars and bars on them but had no problem flying the "gay pride " rainbow flag. There are a significant number of so called "refugees " from Somolia in the Fairview area and also many from the sand box. Every time I go to the city, especially Nampa I observe more gang activity. I do not believe local LE has any idea of what lies ahead. When I was a kid there was twenty plus miles of agriculture between Boise and Nampa. Meridian was a nice little town (as was Nampa and Caldwell). Now it is dang near continuous city throughout the valley. The area is growing rapidly very similar to the growth the Sacramento Kalifornia area saw starting in the 70's. If you're good with all of that Boise is still a wonderful city.
As far as the state goes it has a lot to offer for us who love the wilderness, great hunting opportunities, great fishing and many areas most won't put the effort in too hunt.
As for me, I am north of the valley but am looking to move further out in the next couple of years or possibly to Wyoming or Montana.
Good luck!

Norkal

"One can take my life but not my faith or my
confidence. I fear none and respect all."
 
A couple years
>back the Capital removed the
>state flags that had stars
>and bars on them but
>had no problem flying the
>"gay pride " rainbow flag.
>There are a significant number
>of so called "refugees "
>from Somolia in the Fairview
>area and also many from
>the sand box. >
>Norkal

Another racist feeling comfy showing his colors on MM.

You won't find a more conservative state than Idaho. Yes, downtown has become more liberal, but I guaranty you that statewide politics is overwhelmingly conservative. Meridian, where you would work, does not have a gang/crime issues and is not liberal. Any of the suburbs you would consider outside of the city of Boise itself, would be overwhelmingly conservative and likewise gang free and low crime.

Norkal, feel free to fly your rebel flag and swastikas' in another state.
 
I am from AZ, I am used to it.

Thanks for the input guys. I have delayed my decision until Spring because I don't want to move mid school year.

It's fun to dream about being in a smaller town, or living in a house with a lake view somewhere.

We might do this.
 
>A couple years
>>back the Capital removed the
>>state flags that had stars
>>and bars on them but
>>had no problem flying the
>>"gay pride " rainbow flag.
>>There are a significant number
>>of so called "refugees "
>>from Somolia in the Fairview
>>area and also many from
>>the sand box. >
>>Norkal
>
>Another racist feeling comfy showing his
>colors on MM.
>
>You won't find a more conservative
>state than Idaho. Yes,
>downtown has become more liberal,
>but I guaranty you that
>statewide politics is overwhelmingly conservative.
> Meridian, where you would
>work, does not have a
>gang/crime issues and is not
>liberal. Any of the
>suburbs you would consider outside
>of the city of Boise
>itself, would be overwhelmingly conservative
>and likewise gang free and
>low crime.
>
>Norkal, feel free to fly your
>rebel flag and swastikas' in
>another state.

If you don't think Meridian has a crime issue maybe you should watch the news or pick up a newspaper. The Treasure Valley looks clean to the naked eye , but it has all the crime , drugs and gangs it can handle.
 
>If you don't think Meridian has
>a crime issue maybe you
>should watch the news or
>pick up a newspaper. The
>Treasure Valley looks clean to
>the naked eye , but
>it has all the crime
>, drugs and gangs it
>can handle.

There must be a Meridian in so cal.
Meridian High School is widely known as the most ghetto school in the valley. Compared to Eagle or say, the Timberline High School areas, yes Meridian has crime. Compared to the 49 other states, Meridian does NOT have crime. Clearly you haven't travelled much.
 
LAST EDITED ON Dec-23-17 AT 05:22PM (MST)[p]>If you don't think Meridian has
>a crime issue maybe you
>should watch the news or
>pick up a newspaper. The
>Treasure Valley looks clean to
>the naked eye , but
>it has all the crime
>, drugs and gangs it
>can handle.

I have a feeling you could be a Mormon transplant that has never tasted beer. No offense to the Mormons, I grew up LDS, but just sayin ? Meridian has more sheltered children than the rest of the country combined.
 
Definitely not a religious transplant, but a transplant none the less . I moved to a small Idaho town to get my family away from the crime and drug infested dump we came from . I have been plagued by these criminals and drug addicts for most of my life and I definitely know one when I see one . When I go to any of the bigger towns in the the treasure valley , they are there .
 
Gotcha. I couldn't think of a safer place to live, realistically. My point being, if you think it's bad here, I'm not sure where else you could look that has a fraction of all that we have.
 
It seems to be a pretty pessimistic thread, and I won't speak to the political aspects of Boise, as I don't know enough (unfortunately). The quality of life is pretty well known, with lots of major publications touting the great amenities and recreational opportunities here.
I was raised in Boise, as was my wife; we surely notice all the new faces in the Treasure Valley. The population has literally tripled in the valley since we were in high-school and shows no sign of stopping anytime soon.
The hunting and fishing on public lands echoes the overall growth. I am glad to see our public lands being utilized and hopefully everyone appreciates the luxury of free opportunities as well as open space to recreate on those lands. If you choose Boise, you and your boys will have endless choices for your hunting and fishing. Don?t expect to find a ton of solitude, however. Those days are waning in Idaho. Camping areas and Trailheads fill up quick and competition for reliable hunting country is becoming pretty common. Opportunities are always there for a hunter who is flexible and determined; as always, but I wouldn't expect anyone with reliable public land information to give up any spots. Best of luck on a big ?Life? decision for you and your family.
 
I'm definitely not trying to paint the area as a horrible place. But realize that it's a city and has all the ups and downs of any city , just on a smaller scale.

By all means do it, best life choice I have ever made .
 
>I'm definitely not trying to paint
>the area as a horrible
>place. But realize that it's
>a city and has all
>the ups and downs of
>any city , just on
>a smaller scale.
>
>By all means do it, best
>life choice I have ever
>made .

I'm guessing you have very little exposure to a big city. Boise isn't Seattle, San Francisco or LA. There?s no where in Idaho I wouldn't feel comfortable walking at 2am in the morning. Crime is relatively minor except for the occasional nut job.
 
if you will work by St Lukes on eagle i would not look at emmett. You dont want to be traveling down eagle road any more than you have to. IMO its the worst road in the area.

Travis
www.SkullHanger.com
 
Idaho isn't too bad if you get past the gangs, refugees, middle easterners, Mormons, druggies. Oh and the raciest.

On the western side some of the farmers are starting to lock their doors at night. Darn racist probably stealing to buy more ropes.
 
LAST EDITED ON Dec-27-17 AT 03:57PM (MST)[p]D6 and I both have history in some of the same country in CA. I'm glad you and I agree that moving to ID has had zero regrets, except leaving some family/friends behind.

My posts, in part are to note that even if you work in town, you can, with a short commute, like brymoore, get much more rural.

Now, I do understand there is crime. I do think there are stats avail if anyone wants to confirm. Other than Caldwell, and parts of Nampa, you'll likely find most of the rest of the Treasure Valley will compare favorably for what our MSA offers.

Clearly there are more rural places, if that is your choice. D6 certainly chose Weiser for a reason. I applaud that. I've worked with more than a few folks who even commuted to Treasure Valley from there. That's too far for me.

Bottom line, if you have an opportunity for a good job here and quality hunting and fishing, along with good quality of life are conditions to take that job, I wouldn't hesitate.
 
BPK,
Labeling a person you know absolutely nothing about isn't very bright. Or is it possible you were just attempting to push my button and get an invitation to a dance? Well my friend that isn't going to happen. Trust me, you know nothing of my ?true colors?.

I have relatives of many races, including but not limited to European, Asian, African and Mexican. I love them all. I also have numerous friends of varied races and ethnic backgrounds. However we are all one, we are all Americans and mostly of Christian Judeo beliefs, those upon which this nation was founded.

In regard to your belief that Idaho does not have a crime problem, this is my response.
I do have a solid background dealing with the worst scum and dirtballs our country has to offer, 28+ years of it. They come from all races. I know a little about the criminal element, a little more than I care too. My name has appeared on more than one criminal organizations BNL list. But hey, I'm still here. I know what I am talking about when I state that the criminal element is growing in our state, especially in the greater Boise area. The writing is literally ?on the wall? for anyone that understands it. Our local LEO agencies are going to have their hands full trying to keep the lid on the criminal culture very soon. The LEO?s and communities will have to learn to deal with this problem as best they can. However it is a no win situation, as there is no legal means of eliminating this problem. The gangs and criminal element are a cancer that will continue to grow.
You are correct this is not even close to being at the same level as what our nations large metro areas are dealing with and yes, Idaho is still a great place to live and to raise a family. However one still needs to keep their head out of the sand.
My career was in the PRK. Like Idaho, much of the rural areas of the state are very Constitution minded. The problem is the large metro areas control the state as a whole and those areas are controlled by socialists.

As a kid we ranched out of Oreana. Our upper ranch was in the Owyhees. We built the dam at Triangle. Not a large ranch for the area, about 7000 acres. I have a long history here. When I retired I returned.
The growth was no surprise too me, I was here often as I had family and friends here. However the changes I have witnessed in the past several years I do not like. This change is commensurate with the direction our nation is headed. You are correct in the fact that our state is still what you call ?conservative?. Being a believer in our Constitution does not make one a ?conservative? or ?right wing? it makes one a Constitutionalist. ?Progressives?, ?Liberals? or ?left wing? individuals though they may not realize it, are socialists and are hell bent on destroying our Democratic Republic.
I know nothing about you so I will assume nothing. If you do not agree with my statement do a little research on world history and the eight stages of democracy. History is a great teacher and thus my issue with folks wanting to change it. You still may disagree with me but you will have a better understanding of my taking umbrage with your flag statement. For me it has absolutely nothing to do with racism or a hatred for those in the ?gay? community. This is a free country one can do as they please regardless of if you or I like what they are doing or believe as long as it is not a danger to our physical well being.
I do own a piece of a Nazi flag, however I have no use for Nazism, they too are socialist and dirtballs. The piece of flag is a swastika cut out of the middle of a German flag from the Battle of the Bulge by one of my Great Uncles. He also gave me a German cross he yanked off an enemy soldier he killed during that same battle.
I fly one flag, the flag of these United States of America and I will fly it and live wherever I so desire.


Norkal

"One can take my life but not my faith or my
confidence. I fear none and respect all."
 
.
> The problem is the
>large metro areas control the
>state as a whole and
>those areas are controlled by
>socialists.
>
>

What, are, you, talking about?
 
The large metro areas of cal. LA, Sacto, SF, etc. They are the voting majority of the state, they control it.

Norkal

"One can take my life but not my faith or my
confidence. I fear none and respect all."
 
Don't really care about your political leanings, but in my continual quest to be better informed can you please define what your acronyms BNL and PRK stand for? My very limited search mainly only came up with Bare Naked Ladies (Canadian band, love 'em) and an alternative to Lasik (wish I could qualify, but only have one good eye).

Thanks
Powder
 
>The large metro areas of cal.
> LA, Sacto, SF, etc.
> They are the voting
>majority of the state, they
>control it.
>


> Like Idaho, much of
>the rural areas of the
>state are very Constitution minded.
> The problem is the
>large metro areas control the
>state as a whole and
>those areas are controlled by
>socialists.

The op is asking about Idaho where the politics are controlled by the rural vote in all but a few counties.
You guys are entertaining


Justin
 
>Hey guys, I used to be
>active on this with a
>different username (long since de-activated)
>site years ago when I
>was living in ID and
>Utah during and soon after
>college. I have since
>moved away and spent the
>last 7 years elsewhere in
>the West.
>
>Well I have an opportunity to
>go to Boise for work
>with a decent job.
>I have not spent much
>time in Boise, always lived
>in Eastern ID. I
>am interested to hear from
>some of you locals on
>how it compares with hunting
>and fishing opportunity and quality,
>particularly for kids (my boys
>are 8 and 9 right
>now). Does it feel
>like a big city?
>One of the things I
>really like about Idaho is
>that it was always a
>smaller town, but I am
>not sure it will feel
>that way in Nampa/Meridian/Boise.
>
>Any thoughts are much appreciated and
>good luck to everyone with
>whats left of the fall.
>
 
On the topic of considering Boise, it's really a matter of perspective. I grew up in Central Oregon town at that time of 6,700 people moved to Portland for work many years ago. I hunt Idaho every few years and visit their fairly often. If I had to make a living in a decent sized town/city Boise would be a dream come true. Oregon has literally almost no mule deer left, archery elk seasons are ten times more crowded than Idaho's and Oregon has well over double the amount of people. Now if you ask someone from New York Oregon May be a dream come true, if you ask someone from Wyoming then Oregon and Idaho might both be crap. It really boils down to your perspective and what your looking for in an area where you can make a living.
My vote would be run to Boise as fast as you can.
 
I agree with it being a matter of perspective. I have friends who have relocated from Seattle and Phoenix in the last 5 years to the greater Boise area and the rave about it. On the other hand, those who've been in Boise for 20-30 year complain about what it's turning/turned into. I guess it depends on where you are coming from and what you are looking for...
 
powderfinger,
BNL- Bad News List
PRK- Peoples Republic of Kalifornia

Norkal

"One can take my life but not my faith or my
confidence. I fear none and respect all."
 

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