DonVathome
Very Active Member
- Messages
- 1,717
Most times they do not shoot well for me but for my .280 they are. It seems like I get a few extra flyers when shooting from a bench vs. regular ammo. Has anyone else ever noticed this?
super performance bullets
- Thread starter DonVathome
- Start date
Are you speaking of the Hornady Superformance ammo? If so, I have never been able to get them to shoot well out of my .270, and I foolishly used this ammo on a deer hunt in 2013 and happened to lose the only animal of my life that year. It looked/felt like a great shot, but the blood trail dried up quickly and I couldn't locate the animal after two days of looking. It's hard to say for sure that it was the bullet's fault and not my shot placement (it was likely a combination of the two), but considering it was only about 175 yds and broadside, I tend to think the bullet let me down. Maybe it didn't get good expansion so the deer was able to run much farther than would be expected. I'll never purchase this line of ammo again.
I tried the 130 grain superformance, couldn't get them to group at all. I was worried there might be a problem with my gun/scope umtil I shot my 'old reliable' load and got moa. I wish they would have grouped as the ballistic charts showed them to be pretty phenomenal.
Joe2Kool
Very Active Member
- Messages
- 2,744
LAST EDITED ON Mar-11-17 AT 05:33PM (MST)[p]2012. 340 yards. 300 Win Mag. Hornaday SST Superformance 180 grain. 158 grains recovered bullet, or 88%. He was dead before my head finished recoiling. HAving trouble getting the bullet pic from PhotoBucket. I'll attach it later.
I don't remember how the groups were, but I must have been pleased enough to hunt with it.
I shoot the Superformance in my 7mm Mag also.
I don't remember how the groups were, but I must have been pleased enough to hunt with it.
I shoot the Superformance in my 7mm Mag also.
ridgetops
Very Active Member
- Messages
- 2,742
I was using the 154 gr. SST in 7mm mag. when I lost the bull elk.
I have had other hunters tell me they have had the same problems with the SST.
They complained to Hornady and Hornady told them the superformance SST bullet is not designed for big boned animals.
On the other hand, they shot very tight groups out of my rifle and I did put down a mature buck a few weeks later with the same bullet.
The elk was shot at between 150-200 yards and the deer was shot at about 330 yards.
Proud member of the Wolfpack!
I have had other hunters tell me they have had the same problems with the SST.
They complained to Hornady and Hornady told them the superformance SST bullet is not designed for big boned animals.
On the other hand, they shot very tight groups out of my rifle and I did put down a mature buck a few weeks later with the same bullet.
The elk was shot at between 150-200 yards and the deer was shot at about 330 yards.
Proud member of the Wolfpack!
elkassassin
Long Time Member
- Messages
- 36,995
Don't Know Why Anybody would wanna Stray away from a Proven Bullet!
Specially one with lot's of(KNOCKDOWN!) I Mean Energy!
Oh,Did I Tell You?
I Didn't have to Trail any of them!
[Font][Font color = "blue"]I Changed My Signature Just for NVB!
Like 6 Damn Times Now!
Specially one with lot's of(KNOCKDOWN!) I Mean Energy!
Oh,Did I Tell You?
I Didn't have to Trail any of them!
[Font][Font color = "blue"]I Changed My Signature Just for NVB!
Like 6 Damn Times Now!
elkassassin
Long Time Member
- Messages
- 36,995
Hey DW!
I've Got a Dewalt Drill that'll also Drill Holes!
[Font][Font color = "blue"]I Changed My Signature Just for NVB!
Like 6 Damn Times Now!
I've Got a Dewalt Drill that'll also Drill Holes!
[Font][Font color = "blue"]I Changed My Signature Just for NVB!
Like 6 Damn Times Now!
elkassassin
Long Time Member
- Messages
- 36,995
Aim at the Heart!
Move 4"-6" Forward & Squeeze!
When You Take 2 out of 4 Limbs out along with other Goodies you get Results like in my Above Post/Pic!
[Font][Font color = "blue"]I Changed My Signature Just for NVB!
Like 6 Damn Times Now!
Move 4"-6" Forward & Squeeze!
When You Take 2 out of 4 Limbs out along with other Goodies you get Results like in my Above Post/Pic!
[Font][Font color = "blue"]I Changed My Signature Just for NVB!
Like 6 Damn Times Now!
The last bull I shot was quartering towards me. I aimed behind shoulder,missed the meat hit one long and clipped the liver exiting just behind the diaphragm. He went 20 yards stood behind a tree for three minutes and fell over. The two reasons I aimed behind the shoulder were to protect the meat and to avoid the above situation which I read on this site over and over. There's a lot of room behind the shoulder to hit something that will kill an elk quickly with a wide range of calibers and bullets.
DonVathome
Very Active Member
- Messages
- 1,717
It is Hornady SST, they are for small game (female ibex) = 50# or less! 139 grain. They are shooing good in my .280 and my 300 win mag - not great but good!
ridgetops
Very Active Member
- Messages
- 2,742
>The last bull I shot was
>quartering towards me. I aimed
>behind shoulder,missed the meat hit
>one long and clipped the
>liver exiting just behind the
>diaphragm. He went 20 yards
>stood behind a tree for
>three minutes and fell over.
>The two reasons I aimed
>behind the shoulder were to
>protect the meat and to
>avoid the above situation which
>I read on this site
> over and over. There's
>a lot of room behind
>the shoulder to hit something
>that will kill an elk
>quickly with a wide range
>of calibers and bullets.
Hey DW, I agree but sometimes ##### happens!
Better to have a bullet that will perform, if the best shot placement does not occur.
I'm betting that if an Accubond or Barnes VOR-TX would have been used on that elk I lost, I would have had a freezer full of elk.
Proud member of the Wolfpack!
>quartering towards me. I aimed
>behind shoulder,missed the meat hit
>one long and clipped the
>liver exiting just behind the
>diaphragm. He went 20 yards
>stood behind a tree for
>three minutes and fell over.
>The two reasons I aimed
>behind the shoulder were to
>protect the meat and to
>avoid the above situation which
>I read on this site
> over and over. There's
>a lot of room behind
>the shoulder to hit something
>that will kill an elk
>quickly with a wide range
>of calibers and bullets.
Hey DW, I agree but sometimes ##### happens!
Better to have a bullet that will perform, if the best shot placement does not occur.
I'm betting that if an Accubond or Barnes VOR-TX would have been used on that elk I lost, I would have had a freezer full of elk.
Proud member of the Wolfpack!
>>The last bull I shot was
>>quartering towards me. I aimed
>>behind shoulder,missed the meat hit
>>one long and clipped the
>>liver exiting just behind the
>>diaphragm. He went 20 yards
>>stood behind a tree for
>>three minutes and fell over.
>>The two reasons I aimed
>>behind the shoulder were to
>>protect the meat and to
>>avoid the above situation which
>>I read on this site
>> over and over. There's
>>a lot of room behind
>>the shoulder to hit something
>>that will kill an elk
>>quickly with a wide range
>>of calibers and bullets.
>
>Hey DW, I agree but sometimes
>##### happens!
>Better to have a bullet that
>will perform, if the best
>shot placement does not occur.
>
>I'm betting that if an Accubond
>or Barnes VOR-TX would have
>been used on that elk
>I lost, I would have
>had a freezer full of
>elk.
>
>Proud member of the Wolfpack!
I agree sometimes chit happens. I just don't agree with the it's the bullets fault argument that I repeatedly read on here. There is no magic bullet yet that's heart seeking. The high part of the shoulder blade didn't stop my pellet, and it won't stop a modern high powered rifle. On a broadside elk it could pass thru both shoulder blades, miss the lungs and spine, and go 3" into an aspen on the other side! He!! we've all made a bad shot, sooner or later it happens to everyone, and it sux I know. I've been killin em with Hornaday leverevolution 45-70 325 grain ammo lately. Broadside, rib bone only. If I recover the bullet, it's pieces of the copper jacket and pieces of the lead. I don't like it. When I'm out, I'm switchin. I've watched a pile of em die to core lokts and everybody beats them up. I may go back to em after I'm out, as I used to recover a good sized piece of those when they didn't pass thru.
>>quartering towards me. I aimed
>>behind shoulder,missed the meat hit
>>one long and clipped the
>>liver exiting just behind the
>>diaphragm. He went 20 yards
>>stood behind a tree for
>>three minutes and fell over.
>>The two reasons I aimed
>>behind the shoulder were to
>>protect the meat and to
>>avoid the above situation which
>>I read on this site
>> over and over. There's
>>a lot of room behind
>>the shoulder to hit something
>>that will kill an elk
>>quickly with a wide range
>>of calibers and bullets.
>
>Hey DW, I agree but sometimes
>##### happens!
>Better to have a bullet that
>will perform, if the best
>shot placement does not occur.
>
>I'm betting that if an Accubond
>or Barnes VOR-TX would have
>been used on that elk
>I lost, I would have
>had a freezer full of
>elk.
>
>Proud member of the Wolfpack!
I agree sometimes chit happens. I just don't agree with the it's the bullets fault argument that I repeatedly read on here. There is no magic bullet yet that's heart seeking. The high part of the shoulder blade didn't stop my pellet, and it won't stop a modern high powered rifle. On a broadside elk it could pass thru both shoulder blades, miss the lungs and spine, and go 3" into an aspen on the other side! He!! we've all made a bad shot, sooner or later it happens to everyone, and it sux I know. I've been killin em with Hornaday leverevolution 45-70 325 grain ammo lately. Broadside, rib bone only. If I recover the bullet, it's pieces of the copper jacket and pieces of the lead. I don't like it. When I'm out, I'm switchin. I've watched a pile of em die to core lokts and everybody beats them up. I may go back to em after I'm out, as I used to recover a good sized piece of those when they didn't pass thru.
txhunter58
Long Time Member
- Messages
- 8,539
From what I have read about the bullet, and the above comments, it sounds like a bullet that has maximum expansion ON ENTRY at high speeds. That sounds to me like a bullet that will do poorly in close up shots and better in long range shots. Hmm, long shot on elk and deer went well, not so good on close up elk.
that is why I like bullets that expand well, but have a better built rear to keep on trucking. My go to bullet is STILL the nosler partition.
txhunter58
venor, ergo sum (I hunt, therefore I am)
that is why I like bullets that expand well, but have a better built rear to keep on trucking. My go to bullet is STILL the nosler partition.
txhunter58
venor, ergo sum (I hunt, therefore I am)
Homer
Long Time Member
- Messages
- 14,216
>From what I have read about
>the bullet, and the above
>comments, it sounds like a
>bullet that has maximum expansion
>ON ENTRY at high speeds.
> That sounds to me
>like a bullet that will
>do poorly in close up
>shots and better in long
>range shots. Hmm, long shot
>on elk and deer went
>well, not so good on
>close up elk.
>
>that is why I like bullets
>that expand well, but have
>a better built rear to
>keep on trucking. My go
>to bullet is STILL the
>nosler partition.
>
>txhunter58
>
>venor, ergo sum (I hunt, therefore
>I am)
amen...
>the bullet, and the above
>comments, it sounds like a
>bullet that has maximum expansion
>ON ENTRY at high speeds.
> That sounds to me
>like a bullet that will
>do poorly in close up
>shots and better in long
>range shots. Hmm, long shot
>on elk and deer went
>well, not so good on
>close up elk.
>
>that is why I like bullets
>that expand well, but have
>a better built rear to
>keep on trucking. My go
>to bullet is STILL the
>nosler partition.
>
>txhunter58
>
>venor, ergo sum (I hunt, therefore
>I am)
amen...
ridgetops
Very Active Member
- Messages
- 2,742
I have always thought that the SST on my elk exploded on contact and just didn't penetrate but it is possible that it was a pass through without leaving a good wound channel but I doubt it.
The bull dropped quickly in its tracks and then struggled to its feet a few seconds later. Then trotted off without any noticeable limp at all and there was a blood spot forming high in the shoulder area.
The bull left very little blood to try and track.
Proud member of the Wolfpack!
The bull dropped quickly in its tracks and then struggled to its feet a few seconds later. Then trotted off without any noticeable limp at all and there was a blood spot forming high in the shoulder area.
The bull left very little blood to try and track.
Proud member of the Wolfpack!
joesikora
Long Time Member
- Messages
- 3,286
txhunter58, I agree 100% on the Nosler partition, I used the 180 gr. The last elk I took was at The Sargent's in NM. I double lunged him at about 200 yards, he was dead before he hit the ground!
elkassassin, what was that animal and what did you shoot it with?
Joe
"Sometimes you do things wrong for so long you
think their right" - 2001
"I can't argue with honesty" - 2005
-Joe E Sikora
elkassassin, what was that animal and what did you shoot it with?
Joe
"Sometimes you do things wrong for so long you
think their right" - 2001
"I can't argue with honesty" - 2005
-Joe E Sikora
DonVathome
Very Active Member
- Messages
- 1,717
For big game I usually use the nosler partion.
That said almost everyone forgot my original question - does anyone else notice more random "flyers" then other ammo?
Again this is for 50# max ibex, easy to kill!
That said almost everyone forgot my original question - does anyone else notice more random "flyers" then other ammo?
Again this is for 50# max ibex, easy to kill!
mozey
Long Time Member
- Messages
- 3,057
I shoot SSTs out of my 7mm and 300wsm, and I have not had any issues with random fliers in the same way that I do with Barnes TTSX and Nosler partitions. I've been handloading for couple years and so far SSTs are my most consistent grouper. But that being said, I also will no longer shoot anything bigger than a muley with SSTs.
