cantkillathing
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Colorado is considering increasing permits again by 50%. I read an article about this, anyone else see something or know anything about this? I hope it doesn't happen.
Colorado could up tag prices by 50%.
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There are over 100 Dams in desperate need of repair and fish hatcheries that need to be brought up to date. Invasive aquatic species need to be contained, so please support this bill or the CPW will have to further reduce hunter opportunities to pay for it!
Don't you know that Wildlife viewing contributes over $2 billion to the Colorado economy so this bill is vital to maintaining this economic boon. Without hunters footing the bill and subsidizing all this, none of these programs would be possible for free or no cost to all the others, so please call your state Rep/Senator and voice you're support!
(Sarcasm from me is free)
Don't you know that Wildlife viewing contributes over $2 billion to the Colorado economy so this bill is vital to maintaining this economic boon. Without hunters footing the bill and subsidizing all this, none of these programs would be possible for free or no cost to all the others, so please call your state Rep/Senator and voice you're support!
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cantkillathing
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I had to re-read what you wrote? This is a great plan for all states, lets increase hunting prices to fund everything, hunters are dumb enough to keep paying the bill.
tailchasers
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Proposed legislation.
http://leg.colorado.gov/sites/default/files/documents/2017A/bills/2017A_1321_01.pdf
No layout of park fees. However hunting, boating, and fishing are fully described.
CPW also has the ability to raise fees by 50% if I read this correctly while also incorporating a consumer price index increase which wouldn't count toward any maximum increase. Yuppers.
Development of a 9 member commission but only 3 from the West slope. Yeah ok...
In concept we are getting there but this leave lots of room for a CPW to run wild.
"Courage is being scared to death but
saddling up anyway."
http://leg.colorado.gov/sites/default/files/documents/2017A/bills/2017A_1321_01.pdf
No layout of park fees. However hunting, boating, and fishing are fully described.
CPW also has the ability to raise fees by 50% if I read this correctly while also incorporating a consumer price index increase which wouldn't count toward any maximum increase. Yuppers.
Development of a 9 member commission but only 3 from the West slope. Yeah ok...
In concept we are getting there but this leave lots of room for a CPW to run wild.
"Courage is being scared to death but
saddling up anyway."
Hunters are gonna be taken for a serious ride if this passes. Don't forget they also want to charge up to $20 for application fee's, so that $45 deer tag would really cost $65.
But lets not forget to give credit where credit is due, the CPW does spend a whooping 3.2% of its budget on Big Game management! Items 3001-3004 of budgeted items in attached worksheets. Ran a $1.5 million surplus last year, but still going broke?
http://cpw.state.co.us/Documents/Commission/2017/Jan/Item_25-Financial_Update-Jan2107-PWCMtg.pdf
Soon we'll have the most expensive tags and the least amount of resident opportunity of any western state, I'm psyched!!!
But lets not forget to give credit where credit is due, the CPW does spend a whooping 3.2% of its budget on Big Game management! Items 3001-3004 of budgeted items in attached worksheets. Ran a $1.5 million surplus last year, but still going broke?
http://cpw.state.co.us/Documents/Commission/2017/Jan/Item_25-Financial_Update-Jan2107-PWCMtg.pdf
Soon we'll have the most expensive tags and the least amount of resident opportunity of any western state, I'm psyched!!!
elkassassin
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Bend us over some more!
Utah would be the very next State to do it!
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Like 6 Damn Times Now!
Utah would be the very next State to do it!
[Font][Font color = "blue"]I Changed My Signature Just for NVB!
Like 6 Damn Times Now!
elks96
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>Colorado is considering increasing permits again
>by 50%. I read
>an article about this, anyone
>else see something or know
>anything about this? I hope
>it doesn't happen.
Let he misinformation begin...
1. This is for residents only
2. This new bill will set the fee rate tied to inflation rate. Thus every year the CPW will index the tag cost with the inflation rate.
3. This has nothing to do with parks. Parks has its own separate budget, own separate revenue source. Also by law the commission has virtually free reign over parks fees. If they wanted to today the commission could go in and approve a $3.00 camping increase it could happen without issue. The parks side does not have it hands tied by legislation in the same manner that the wildlife side has...
4. So many people are whining about the increase, but it has been over a decade since the last fee increase. So what an elk tag may cost $60. Most people spend more than that on coffee in a month. Hell one trip to the movies, or?????
5. If you can not afford a hunting tag for $80 maybe you should look for a cheaper hobby.
We all have choice to make every activity we do has a cost. Some activities cost so much that they are not reasonable. If your situation prevents you from being able to afford an activity you either need to find something else, or you need to find a way to get the money.
>by 50%. I read
>an article about this, anyone
>else see something or know
>anything about this? I hope
>it doesn't happen.
Let he misinformation begin...
1. This is for residents only
2. This new bill will set the fee rate tied to inflation rate. Thus every year the CPW will index the tag cost with the inflation rate.
3. This has nothing to do with parks. Parks has its own separate budget, own separate revenue source. Also by law the commission has virtually free reign over parks fees. If they wanted to today the commission could go in and approve a $3.00 camping increase it could happen without issue. The parks side does not have it hands tied by legislation in the same manner that the wildlife side has...
4. So many people are whining about the increase, but it has been over a decade since the last fee increase. So what an elk tag may cost $60. Most people spend more than that on coffee in a month. Hell one trip to the movies, or?????
5. If you can not afford a hunting tag for $80 maybe you should look for a cheaper hobby.
We all have choice to make every activity we do has a cost. Some activities cost so much that they are not reasonable. If your situation prevents you from being able to afford an activity you either need to find something else, or you need to find a way to get the money.
For some of us its not about cost, but about accountability of where the money goes. Nothing will change other than price. Again I pointed out where they spend only 3.2% of their massive budget on Big Game management. Ask any of our neighboring States if they would like to have the current revenues that Colorado CPW has.
At least make OTC tags good for all OTC seasons, or restart an access program, better yet lobby the Legislature to open up ALL state trust lands like other states. Tags became harder to draw a couple years ago with the increase in landowner quota, that the CPW asked for and now I might get to pay more for less opportunity so they can stock more trout and fix dams? How about throwing hunters a bone for once?
At least make OTC tags good for all OTC seasons, or restart an access program, better yet lobby the Legislature to open up ALL state trust lands like other states. Tags became harder to draw a couple years ago with the increase in landowner quota, that the CPW asked for and now I might get to pay more for less opportunity so they can stock more trout and fix dams? How about throwing hunters a bone for once?
elks96
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Pot money is not so free. Colorado has TABOR that limits how much they can take in taxes regardless. Hell with the housing boom in Denver the property taxes alone should be astronomical but because we have tabor they are held to only a certain amount they can keep.
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LAST EDITED ON Apr-13-17 AT 06:03PM (MST)[p]Paying more for a tag is fine as I agree an increase is warranted and tying to the CPI is smart. It's the ability of CPW to raise fees by 50% which does not include the CPI increase without state legislature approval that really digs me. CPW would be one of the very few state agencies to have this latitude. That $60 tag price could get real spendy real fast with this freedom all based upon an appointed commission of 9 individuals with a minimum of 3 from the west slope. Who appoints these commissioners?
The people of Colorado are being lead into this bill under the cover of a frickin smoke screen.
"Courage is being scared to death but
saddling up anyway."
The people of Colorado are being lead into this bill under the cover of a frickin smoke screen.
"Courage is being scared to death but
saddling up anyway."
txhunter58
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"Hunters are gonna be taken for a serious ride if this passes. Don't forget they also want to charge up to $20 for application fee's, so that $45 deer tag would really cost $65."
Where did you see that?
txhunter58
venor, ergo sum (I hunt, therefore I am)
Where did you see that?
txhunter58
venor, ergo sum (I hunt, therefore I am)
LAST EDITED ON Apr-13-17 AT 08:26PM (MST)[p]Here you go txhunter58
http://cpw.state.co.us/Sustainability-Bill
Recoup transaction costs associated with resident hunting license applications (not including over-the-counter licenses) by increasing the limited license drawing application?fee up to $20.
But only applies to Resident hunters
http://cpw.state.co.us/Sustainability-Bill
Recoup transaction costs associated with resident hunting license applications (not including over-the-counter licenses) by increasing the limited license drawing application?fee up to $20.
But only applies to Resident hunters
ColoradoBob
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Looks like it will stop a few from applying for turkey tags
Cost of tag---$30
cost of app---$20
cost of stamp-$15
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Total cost $65 for a limited draw tag. Pretty steep---Those of us die hard turkey hunters will still pony up. The one up side it may limit the number of applications, so drawing a tag will be easier.
Cost of tag---$30
cost of app---$20
cost of stamp-$15
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Total cost $65 for a limited draw tag. Pretty steep---Those of us die hard turkey hunters will still pony up. The one up side it may limit the number of applications, so drawing a tag will be easier.
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LAST EDITED ON Apr-19-17 AT 02:50PM (MST)[p]In some ways it seems like these changes would be a good time to stop making you pay for all the tag costs up front and then give us a refund. Certainly costs them to figure and issue a refund check and mail out. They have said that they do not receive any interest income on that money, so what purpose does it serve.
Since they will be making money on the apps now ($20 each) seems like they could drop the full charge.
The only reason I can see to continue it is to limit the number of people who apply. If it only cost $20, I am sure the applicants would go up some. Since more apps mean more income for them, not sure why they would be against the idea
txhunter58
venor, ergo sum (I hunt, therefore I am)
Since they will be making money on the apps now ($20 each) seems like they could drop the full charge.
The only reason I can see to continue it is to limit the number of people who apply. If it only cost $20, I am sure the applicants would go up some. Since more apps mean more income for them, not sure why they would be against the idea
txhunter58
venor, ergo sum (I hunt, therefore I am)
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